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What's your RBC, HGB, and HCT without nandrolone?Any protocol that reduces your chances of long term HDL suppression and high hematocrit may be the way to go.
Back in the days when I was concerned about wasting, I used 200 mg testosterone plus 200 mg nandrolone per week. I reduced it to 100 mg of each after two years and stayed on it for probably two years more (I used to stop nandrolone for 2 months until I started observing any potential unintentional weight loss).
To be honest, I am 63 years old and cannot definitely tell you if I did any permanent damage to my cardiovascular system with long term nandrolone plus T use. I get a complete cardiovascular assessment once per year. My only issue is high blood pressure (which I treat). On nandrolone, my HDL averaged 30 and hematocrit 50. My LDL has always been good. My calcium score is not the best (100) but that is common in people with long term HIV with no exposure to anabolics.
"Individuals infected with HIV have a significantly increased risk for a variety of cardiovascular complications, including acute myocardial infarction,2 heart failure with both reduced and preserved ejection fraction,3 sudden cardiac death,4 peripheral arterial disease,5 and stroke." Ref: https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/CIRCULATIONAHA.118.036211#:~:text=Individuals infected with HIV have,arterial disease,5 and stroke.
I am glad I used nandrolone. I am convinced that it saved my life. For some, steroid use builds hope
I stopped nandrolone around 2008 since it made my blood pressure significantly go up (water retention related) and also found out it really did not help at all with visceral fat.
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HCT stays around 50. If your hematocrit has not stabilized after a year on stable dosing of under 200 mg/week of TRT, look into doing a sleep study to detect sleep apnea. I assume that you do not smoke.
I've been on TRT about 8 years, don't smoke and had a sleep study done a couple years before TRT. It's getting very frustrating.HCT stays around 50. If your hematocrit has not stabilized after a year on stable dosing of under 200 mg/week of TRT, look into doing a sleep study to detect sleep apnea. I assume that you do not smoke.
Jc, do u think that u would have faired just as well, in regards to surviving having HIV back then, using test at say 400mg/ week, opposed to 200mg test and 200mg nandrolone? Or do u think that there was something specifically about the addition of nandrolone that allowed u to survive back then, vs just being on test alone?
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Very good question.
What was the outcome from the hematology consult? IIRC I recommended you screen for hemochromatosis and make sure you have a knowledge practitioner help you evaluate your results in context to your personal history.
That may have been someone else, I don't recall, but I was tested for hemochromatosis about 4 years ago and it was negative. That hematologist wasn't concerned with my hematocrit at 54 either.
I gotta ask how recent is this photograph?
@Nelson Vergel . Also curious, why 7 Keto DHEA over regular DHEA?
Was just re-listening to an old dr Lichten podcast on Crohn’s disease, and he was interviewing a crohn’s patient that he had treated, and the patient said he had actually figured out how to treat the crohn’s with anabolic steroids before he even went to dr Lichten, based off of old HIV studies/ research. Crohn’s is an autoimmune disease, and he figured it might be able to be treated similarly to HIV, due to HIV also being a disease of the immune system. Dr Lichten has been using nandrolone as his “secret weapon” compound for many years, to treat many ailments people are dealing with, including this patient with crohn’s. So nandrolone might actually have beneficial properties, that test alone doesn’t offer, when it comes to treating certain conditions. Mainly conditions dealing with inflammation and the immune system, from what I’ve gathered. Here’s the podcast if anyone wants to check it out
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Did oxandrolone effect your rbc, hemoglobin and hematocrit?
