First Trimix Injection - Met my Deductible for the year

[looyvillelarry]

Louie you might as well post yourself on Craigslist and make a little money that thing till you get it figured out. Got to be a Mary Kay or Avon convention somewhere around you.

More than most, I find humor in even the grimmest of situations. Unfortunately, the National Farmers Convention was in town lol

 

[blackebob]

More than most, I find humor in even the grimmest of situations. Unfortunately, the National Farmers Convention was in town lol

Being a veteran my boss likes to call me major smartass, so I'm sure I will offend someone on here at some point, but no harm is intended.

 

[Neil]

Very sorry to hear this Larry. If anyone had a compelling medical need to have a phenylephrine vial on hand, it would be you.

And don't take that wrong way, I would want one as well

 

[looyvillelarry]

And don't take that wrong way, I would want one as well

No offense taken. It's on the way, now I just have to be very patient. Just have to remember how great that felt in ER .. I am still motivated to have this work. So many times, I have used viagra with maybe a 25-30% success rate.. Clearly, once I get the right mix/number dialed in, this will crush that.

 

[Saul]

I am impressed you can take 120mg sudafed and then fall asleep. Anything over 30 mg for me and I feel like I am on speed.

 

[Neil]

Hi Larry, how goes the battle? Hope you are doing OK. Neil

 

[looyvillelarry]

Hi Larry, how goes the battle? Hope you are doing OK. Neil

Can't say "great" After my last ER meeting with a uro, I went in for a followup. He suggested Bimix, and I thought, while I have the Trimix on the way, I'll give the bimix a shot (pardon the pun).

I started with 4 units of bimix, and titrated up to 6. At 6, I had some "intermittent" results.

Then, had a special event, didn't have my notes, and went to 8 units (should have been 7). Apparently, that isn't a good number I tried all of the tricks, but my phenyleferine hadn't arrived yet. I did have "bend-able" detumescence, after about 5 hours, and fell asleep. Woke up 2 hours later, and knew it wasn't going down.

This time, the uro did the PE protocol the same as I would have done at home, 7 rounds. Ended up with aspiration.
The uro STRONGLY SUGGESTED "no injections". I meet with his colleague next week.

In the interim, I have started a NO stack that includes 5mg of tadalafil 2x a day. I will be trying that, plus 20mg "pre-event" tomorrow.

There are two things that I will be asking:

1) EVERY time that I've had a a priapism, it has been from injecting on the left side. I am right handed, and use an autoinjecter with 1/2 needle (clearly, I am making it into corpus cavernosum ).

2)I wonder about the "timing" of the phenylepherine injections - if they had been injected earlier in the process, would that have worked better?

Right now, I am going to see how the 20mg tadalafil works combined with the daily dose (i have not tried the daily + protocol before) and really working hard to drop some additional weight.

I know, this sounds insane reading it, but I'd like to try a 6-7 unit dose again. Mini Me isn't so sure-He doesn't even want my partner to wear white lol.

As an aside, the uro that I saw this last time, was the same one I initially saw. I have to say, his clinical bedside manner was MUCH better than his office. A 5 min "wait and see" between each injection is not something that was easy. He did wonder aloud, "I wonder why the PE can't be injected intravenously".. sigh, I kindly informed him that wouldn't even get INTO the corpus cavernosum because there wasn't flow. Not to mention, the possible cardiac implications. (doh).

Neil, thanks for asking. This is what makes this forum so great, people seriously care.

 

[Dr Justin Saya MD]

Can't say "great" After my last ER meeting with a uro, I went in for a followup. He suggested Bimix, and I thought, while I have the Trimix on the way, I'll give the bimix a shot (pardon the pun).

I started with 4 units of bimix, and titrated up to 6. At 6, I had some "intermittent" results.

Then, had a special event, didn't have my notes, and went to 8 units (should have been 7). Apparently, that isn't a good number I tried all of the tricks, but my phenyleferine hadn't arrived yet. I did have "bend-able" detumescence, after about 5 hours, and fell asleep. Woke up 2 hours later, and knew it wasn't going down.

This time, the uro did the PE protocol the same as I would have done at home, 7 rounds. Ended up with aspiration.
The uro STRONGLY SUGGESTED "no injections". I meet with his colleague next week.

In the interim, I have started a NO stack that includes 5mg of tadalafil 2x a day. I will be trying that, plus 20mg "pre-event" tomorrow.

There are two things that I will be asking:

1) EVERY time that I've had a a priapism, it has been from injecting on the left side. I am right handed, and use an autoinjecter with 1/2 needle (clearly, I am making it into corpus cavernosum ).

2)I wonder about the "timing" of the phenylepherine injections - if they had been injected earlier in the process, would that have worked better?

Right now, I am going to see how the 20mg tadalafil works combined with the daily dose (i have not tried the daily + protocol before) and really working hard to drop some additional weight.

I know, this sounds insane reading it, but I'd like to try a 6-7 unit dose again. Mini Me isn't so sure-He doesn't even want my partner to wear white lol.

As an aside, the uro that I saw this last time, was the same one I initially saw. I have to say, his clinical bedside manner was MUCH better than his office. A 5 min "wait and see" between each injection is not something that was easy. He did wonder aloud, "I wonder why the PE can't be injected intravenously".. sigh, I kindly informed him that wouldn't even get INTO the corpus cavernosum because there wasn't flow. Not to mention, the possible cardiac implications. (doh).

Neil, thanks for asking. This is what makes this forum so great, people seriously care.

I have to say unfortunately it seems injectables may not be a a goodoption for you moving forward (hopefully I’m not being “captain obvious”)...and agree - no phenylephrine intravenous for this purpose!

 

[looyvillelarry]

Well, for some very supportive folks that have followed this thread, I wanted to leave a followup.
I have stopped using injections and decided to join a monastery .
No, just kidding on the last part
I started using "Vinces Nitric Stack", which includes 5mg of tadalafil daily. This plus a 20mg kicker when its show time, seems to have beat the Monster. This formulation has worked for me 4/4 times.

I will add, a decent amount of other factors are involved, that like contribute to this
1) Lifting heavy, 5x2.
2) Reasonable HIIT cardio
3)8 weeks into TRT injections after moving from topical
4)HCG
I haven't seen as much weight loss, but I can tell that its just a number. Pants are loser (3 inches) and shirts are tighter in the chest. I'll take that as a win.

 

[Dr Justin Saya MD]

Well, for some very supportive folks that have followed this thread, I wanted to leave a followup.
I have stopped using injections and decided to join a monastery .
No, just kidding on the last part
I started using "Vinces Nitric Stack", which includes 5mg of tadalafil daily. This plus a 20mg kicker when its show time, seems to have beat the Monster. This formulation has worked for me 4/4 times.

I will add, a decent amount of other factors are involved, that like contribute to this
1) Lifting heavy, 5x2.
2) Reasonable HIIT cardio
3)8 weeks into TRT injections after moving from topical
4)HCG
I haven't seen as much weight loss, but I can tell that its just a number. Pants are loser (3 inches) and shirts are tighter in the chest. I'll take that as a win.

Good for you, Larry!

 

[Neil]

Hi Larry, Glad to hear you are getting good results, are they still holding up? (pardon the pun)

Are you using the Doxazosin that's in Gene's Stack, or the Cialis-NO stack only? I have been reading quite a bit in the last few weeks, the posters relating about Doxazosin and a few other Alpha Blockers is compelling, especially in combination with daily Cialis. Over on this thread, one poster has not only related his experiences about Doxazosin, but also alpha blockers like Tamsulosin and Alfuzosin as well. I'd be interested to know what you think. He's the thread I mention. It's a big thread, but has very useful posts. http://www.allthingsmale.com/community/threads/ultimate-adrenergic-control-of-erections.19251/

Since I last posted on this thread, I saw the D.O. doctor that my wife and I pay for out of pocket to see. We visit with him every six months, it's sort of a concierge medicine practice he's got going, that includes managing all our various scripts, a mini physical, and bio identicals for both of us. We also have time to talk. At this visit I did ask if he was comfortable scripting some trimix (he will let us try just about anything that makes sense, within limits). He explained that he was not comfortable doing so, and that several years ago he did prescribe trimix for some clients, but had a very bad experience with one client. It seems it was almost a dead ringer for your story. The doctor injected a small trial dose of trimix into the clients corpus cavernosum, but nothing much happened. The client re-booked to see our doctor again a few days later, and our doctor upped the dose, he said "just a tiny bit". It worked very well this time, and the client went home to share the result with his wife. Turned out though, quite a few hours later this client was in the E.R. and, well, you know the rest. As a result, our doctor hasn't wanted to get involved with trimix again.



He did urge me to try NO boosters instead, and said a local cardiologist that he knows swears by a product called Neo-40. I punched up the specs for this product, and it looks a like a pretty pricey NO tab of beetroot and citrulline, and going off memory I think it also had sodium nitrate in it as well. Interesting.


Anyway, at our next meeting with this doctor I'm going to ask about a script for an alpha blocker. I have another load of stuff from ReliableRX coming, and I have been hitting the beet root powder and citrulline from Bulk Supplements via Amazon.


In closing, mainly I wanted to get your opinion on the alpha blocker, if it's something you have tried or plan to.


Neil

 

[looyvillelarry]

I'm using Vince's stack mostly (https://www.excelmale.com/forum/showthread.php?13077-I-simplified-my-Nitric-Oxide-stack!) w/ Cialis 5mg 2x. I also add beet root to that (bulk supp) and a tiny bit of stevia.

I am going to try some HGW in the stack, but damn, that gets expensive at the levels Gene was using.

I just got my 8 week check on T levels, and they are improving as well. I'd imagine that has helped.

One of the things that I discussed with my uro was the home use of Phenylepherine (and have a script) for priapism. This should be used as early in the process as possible (for me, it would have been at about the 2hr mark, maybe sooner).