Feeling much worse with IM?

[Stylo]

Ok thats not bad at all. Youre gonna be in flux for a bit. Loss of libido can come with stressing about loss of libido too. I felt the same way for a month or so. You havent lost it permanently. Are you fit? Feel good about yourself?

 

[smokedsalmon]

Ok thats not bad at all. Youre gonna be in flux for a bit. Loss of libido can come with stressing about loss of libido too. I felt the same way for a month or so. You havent lost it permanently. Are you fit? Feel good about yourself?

Thanks man, does help to hear that. I think I overdid it on the Cialis at first too and that didn’t help.

Reasonably fit, I work out 3 days a week and run 2-3 days.

My life has been going pretty great otherwise. Got out of a bad relationship months ago. Career, money, and friendships have all been on the up. I have been really pushing myself to succeed though, and it has been stressful. But all in all, I feel more positive and calm than I did several months ago.

 

[Stylo]

Ok cool, you sound like a good catch. Now be honest... hows the new girlfriend in attractiveness? i used to have a girlfriend with an amazing ass, and no tits. Not a problem for me, but her profile always bugged me a bit. As much as I liked banging her, I wasnt fully committed in my mind, I just couldnt see her as my fulltime partner, so I could easily not be turned on by her for days to weeks. My current girl has had moments in which she gained a little bit of weight here and there, yet she has a big ass and perky tits, with a beautiful face. The face alone does it for me. Her profile is angelic, and when she blows me its the best Ive ever had. Now, with that said. Your attraction to your partner is one thing, waking up horny thinking about your co-worker is another. So it ebbs and flows. Interestingly enough, I dont care for porn anymore. So its not worrysome and I dont gauge my libido with that. Crazy thing is I like pretty older women and Im mid 40s lol. Ive banged hot 50-60 old ladies and thats a bigger turn on then the 27 yr old that wants to bang for a while, with a need to procreate. So dont stress, and figure out what you want out of the relationship too. If youre not turned on by vanilla sex, talk about it. Get kinkier than kinky. We go through phases. In the last 3 years my taste has changed. Im somewhat obsessed with veiny tits. Go figure!

 

[fifty]

Currently about 200mg/week. Was on 150mg previously until Defy told me to go up.

Dr C?

 

[smokedsalmon]

Ok cool, you sound like a good catch. Now be honest... hows the new girlfriend in attractiveness? i used to have a girlfriend with an amazing ass, and no tits. Not a problem for me, but her profile always bugged me a bit. As much as I liked banging her, I wasnt fully committed in my mind, I just couldnt see her as my fulltime partner, so I could easily not be turned on by her for days to weeks. My current girl has had moments in which she gained a little bit of weight here and there, yet she has a big ass and perky tits, with a beautiful face. The face alone does it for me. Her profile is angelic, and when she blows me its the best Ive ever had. Now, with that said. Your attraction to your partner is one thing, waking up horny thinking about your co-worker is another. So it ebbs and flows. Interestingly enough, I dont care for porn anymore. So its not worrysome and I dont gauge my libido with that. Crazy thing is I like pretty older women and Im mid 40s lol. Ive banged hot 50-60 old ladies and thats a bigger turn on then the 27 yr old that wants to bang for a while, with a need to procreate. So dont stress, and figure out what you want out of the relationship too. If youre not turned on by vanilla sex, talk about it. Get kinkier than kinky. We go through phases. In the last 3 years my taste has changed. Im somewhat obsessed with veiny tits. Go figure!

Appreciate that haha. I find her super attractive...but that said I haven't found any girls super attractive in a while. I think I mentioned already, I used to think it was problematic that I'd wake up and always want to rub one out but that hasn't happened in a while now. I actually went 10 days without any masturbation last week, and didn't even think twice about it. That's REALLY abnormal for me, even when I had crashed E2. And I take a LOT better care of myself now than I did last year or years prior.

 

[smokedsalmon]

Dr C?

Dr Saya, but the recommendation came from one of the nurses. I can't blame her for suggesting that when my TT came back at 600 on 150mg/week.

FWIW, in the past on 200mg/week, my TT was driving my E2 high enough that my balls finally pulled up some. That hasn't happened in months now.

 

[Westin]

Stay the course. It could be about 2 months before you feel amazing. Dont worry about it too much. You will see the difference.

Stylo- You said in another thread that you were 17 years old. Are you even on TRT? If so how? Prescribed? You are giving medical advice here. You only got a drivers lic less than a year ago.

People- the internet is dangerous. Use your own judgement.

 

[Stylo]

I think people are smart enough to get it.

Is there no need to worry about estradiol levels?

There are videos by several people and doctors stating that there is no need to worry about estradiol levels. Just let go to whatever level it naturally goes to on TRT. Has anyone else seen them and I would love to have a counter opinion. Especially by Nelson. Based on them I stopped my AI and...

www.excelmale.com

Lol to the extreme.

 

[smokedsalmon]

Hey guys, wanted to update with my levels. This is after increasing to 200mg/week.

Glad I got my E2 up again, but I'm shocked my TT is still so low. It used to be easy as hell to break 1000...to the point I had to cut back!

Could this be from low SHBG?

 

[swoops36]

That’s on 200mg SQ right? Wonder what it would be after 6-8 weeks of IM

 

[smokedsalmon]

That’s on 200mg SQ right? Wonder what it would be after 6-8 weeks of IM

You got it. But I did raise my dose fairly recently, in all fairness. But I did expect higher.

I'm going to try IM again in a week or two. So far I feel like crap within a day of every IM injection. Doesn't make any sense, but keeps happening. I expected it to work better too, so I highly doubt it's all in my head.

 

[swoops36]

Just read thru again, given how much better you feel with SQ I maybe wouldn’t worry about numbers as much

 

[smokedsalmon]

Just read thru again, given how much better you feel with SQ I maybe wouldn’t worry about numbers as much

SQ seems to be the way for now. A member on another forum said he felt lousy when starting IM too, but for now I'm more concerned about why I'm only at 700 on 200mg/week when I used to be at nearly double that.

I did reach out to Defy and asked if there's any chance of it being a bad bottle. They were super professional about it and looked into it with Empower, but they haven't had any other reports (so I doubt it's that unless mine was stored under really poor conditions by UPS). I personally keep them in a plastic container under my bathroom sink. I haven't had any issues up until now either.

 

[swoops36]

SQ seems to be the way for now. A member on another forum said he felt lousy when starting IM too, but for now I'm more concerned about why I'm only at 700 on 200mg/week when I used to be at nearly double that.

I did reach out to Defy and asked if there's any chance of it being a bad bottle. They were super professional about it and looked into it with Empower, but they haven't had any other reports (so I doubt it's that unless mine was stored under really poor conditions by UPS). I personally keep them in a plastic container under my bathroom sink. I haven't had any issues up until now either.

Maybe there’s just something about the transition; when I tried SQ I only last 10 day’s before I started feeling like crap, but felt better in 2-3 days after going to back to IM. Maybe getting thru the transition is the hard part, no matter which way you try

 

[smokedsalmon]

Maybe there’s just something about the transition; when I tried SQ I only last 10 day’s before I started feeling like crap, but felt better in 2-3 days after going to back to IM. Maybe getting thru the transition is the hard part, no matter which way you try

Could be. With levels of "only" 700 I could see 2 days messing those up. When I was over 900, I could go 3 days without noticing anything.

I'll try it again, but I definitely can't go through a week like that if it keeps getting worse.

 

[Stylo]

Well, if it remains there. Its not unheard of to do 220mg or more. So its not like youve hit the ceiling. Just wait and see in 6 weeks. As long as u feel good. Stick with it.

 

[Westin]

Be careful who you take advice from people. There is a 17 year old here right above this post giving you medical advice.

 

[Stylo]

Westin, I was joking with you on the other thread and you didn’t get the joke. But you are cracking me up buddy. Now would a 17 yr old remember pussycat theaters back in the 70s or 80s? How about when Mt. St Helen blew its side? Or Barbara Hershey in Looking for Mr Goodbar? Oh heres a cool one, Batteries Not Included, but heres the best part. The studios made a sequel, and I watched it with my parents in the theater, thing is that its not available anywhere and the internet has no record of it. Its one of those mysteries that blows my mind. Goes to show that some things have been erased from history. Anyway if you want to believe that Im 17, Im 17. Thanks for the laughs!!!

 

[Westin]

Well I can only go by what I read. I don’t get the humor that is written, how could I, I don’t know your sense of humor. I worry that people here need solid experience. I don’t know who you are, or what level of experience you have. How could any of us? It’s all a crap shoot on the internet. If you tell us you can almost buy alcohol because you’re 17, I take that at face value. I look at some of your earlier posts on this thread and they seem teenage, talking about banging your girlfriend, yeah we all like that. I had those conversations 30 years ago. You are giving advice on injecting hormone dosages to people looking for help. Can we trust you advice? You’re earlier posts shake my confidence in your advice. Maybe I’m wrong.

 

[Stylo]

I hear ya man. Im in my 40s and on TRT, so my take on life is to give it all you got. Ill be in my 80s still hunting for a good lay. That’s the whole point of TRT, because its healthy to have sexual thoughts. I have friends who are nice guys and they never get what they want out of their relationships. It blows being in a dead bedroom, going to bed hoping to get more than your monthly ration. I was once there, and then I changed it all. So I may sound like a teen horndog, but its because thats who I am at heart. Now lets get back to TRT... And I dont have advice, only an opinion or point of view based on experience, you cannot put your health on what anyone here writes. But we all try to help each other, since most doctors are clueless regarding Hormone therapy.