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The role of gonadotropins in testicular and adrenal androgen biosynthesis pathways -insights from males with congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism on hCG/rFSH and on testosterone replacement


SUMMARY

Objective:
To delineate the role of gonadotropins in male androgen biosynthesis pathways

Design: Case-control study

Patients and measurements: 25 males with congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (CHH) underwent hCG/rFSH and testosterone treatment sequentially. Serum steroid hormone profiles (testosterone precursors and metabolites) on both replacement regimens were analyzed, using liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS/MS) and compared to those of healthy controls, matched by age, BMI, and serum testosterone.

Results: On testosterone replacement, serum concentrations of the classic Δ4 pathway hormones progesterone and 17-hydroxy-progesterone (17-OHP), and the marker steroid of an alternative pathway of testosterone synthesis (androstenediol) were decreased, compared to controls. Androstanediol, a marker of the backdoor pathway of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) synthesis, was increased. 17-OH-pregnenolone, androstenedione, and DHEAS (Δ5 pathway), three 11-oxygenated C19 androgens (11-keto-A4, 11-keto-T, and 11-keto-DHT), and the testosterone (T) metabolites DHT and 17ß-estradiol (E2) were similar to controls.

On gonadotropin replacement, 17-OHP, 17-OH-pregnenolone, DHEAS and androstenedione, as well as DHT, androstenediol, and all 11-oxygenated C19 androgens were normal. Progesterone (Δ4 pathway) was slightly decreased, androstanediol (backdoor DHT pathway) and E2 (T metabolite) were increased.

Conclusions: In males with CHH, serum steroid hormone profiles resemble those of healthy men, if hCG/rFSH is used for substitution. Gonadotropins contribute to steroid hormone production along the classic Δ4 pathway and co-activate an alternative pathway of testosterone biosynthesis via androstenediol. Backdoor DHT biosynthesis, Δ5 17-OH-pregnenolone, DHEA(S), and androstenedione synthesis and 11- oxygenated C19 androgen production are activated independently of gonadotropins. The androgen replacement modality used for the treatment of hypogonadal males with absent or reduced endogenous LH/FSH- secretion may impact long term health and quality of life.


Introduction

Androgens are a family of steroid hormones important for male sexual development, for reproductive health, and metabolic homeostasis. The “classic” androgens, testosterone (T) and dihydrotestosterone (DHT) are C19 carbon steroid hormones, synthesized in the testes from cholesterol via different steroidogenic pathways. Androgens are also produced in the adrenal zona reticularis or locally, in target tissues, by conversion from circulating C21 androgen precursor steroids 1. Steroidogenic enzymes, involved in the formation of T and DHT and differentially expressed and activated in gonadal and adrenal tissues include 3ß-hydroxysteroid-dehydrogenase (HSD3B2), 17α-hydroxylase/C17-20-lyase (CYP17A1), 17ß-hydroxysteroid-dehydrogenase (HSD17B3 and 5), and 5α-reductase (SRD5A2) (Figure1). While androgen production in Leydig cells is dependent on stimulation by luteinizing hormone (LH), produced by gonadotropic anterior pituitary cells, adrenal steroid secretion is regulated by adrenocorticotropic hormone (ACTH) from corticotropic pituitary cells.

The biological effects mediated by androgens are conveyed through the androgen receptor (AR; NR3C4), a ligand-activated nuclear receptor that functions as a transcription factor, and regulates gene expression in target tissues, and that is present in reproductive organs, brain, bone, heart, liver, skin, and larynx 2. Differential androgenic effects are conveyed by the relative concentrations of the respective androgenic steroids in circulation and are further modulated by other factors (their binding to SHBG or albumin in serum with consequences on clearing rates 3, the passive influx of active transport into target cells, specific affinities to the AR, distinct promotor activation profiles 4. Further regulation of AR activity is conveyed by variation in length of a glutamine repeat region (encoded by a polymorphic (CAG)n repeat in exon 1) present at the NH2-terminal domain of the AR 5.

In the human male, the virilizing properties of T and DHT cause internal and external sexual differentiation during fetal life, resulting in the “male primary sexual characteristics” 6. The pubertal increase of circulating testosterone and its maintenance at adult male concentrations in serum is responsible for both virilizing and anabolic effects, resulting in male secondary sexual characteristics, muscle accrual, bone mineralization, and stimulation of erythropoiesis.

Beyond T and DHT, precursor steroids and metabolites are able to elicit androgenic action.
The role of these androgenic steroids has been established in conditions accompanied by androgen excess, such as congenital adrenal hyperplasia 7, polycystic ovary syndrome 8, and castration-resistant prostate cancer 9; however, their contribution to androgenic action in the healthy male is as yet unclear. The impact of gonadotropins on the secretion of bioactive androgenic steroids and their precursors is equally unresolved. Males with congenital hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (CHH) display central hormone deficiency, with disturbed secretion or action of hypothalamic GnRH on the anterior pituitary gland. As a consequence, LH and FSH stimulation of the gonads is deficient. CHH can thus be viewed as a naturally occurring human “knockdown” of gonadotropin stimulation of the gonads, with uncompromised ACTH secretion. To delineate the role of gonadotropins in testicular and adrenal androgen biosynthesis pathways, we analyzed steroid hormone profiles in serum of CHH males twice, once, while patients were on testosterone and once, while they were on gonadotropin replacement.


Results

Combined treatment of CHH males with hCG and rFSH resulted in steroid hormone profiles similar to those of healthy men, but this was not the case, while exogenous testosterone was used for replacement.
Serum steroid hormone levels on the different treatment modalities in CHH males and matched controls are summarized in Table 1 and plotted individually in Figure 3 and Figure 4. While CHH patients were on T substitution, decreased serum concentrations of some members of the classical Δ4 pathway of androgen biosynthesis (progesterone (p=0.0104), 17-OH-progesterone (17 OHP) (p<0.0001)) and of the alternative T pathway steroid androstenediol (p=0.004)) were observed, compared to controls. The marker steroid of the backdoor DHT pathway androstandiol (p=0.025), was slightly increased.

The testosterone metabolites DHT and 17-ß estradiol (E2), the Δ5 steroid 17-pregnenolone, the sulfated form of the Δ5 pathway steroid dehydroepiandrosterone DHEA, i.e. dehydroepiandrosterone sulfate (DHEAS), androstenedione (A4) and all measured 11-oxygenated C19 androgens (11-keto-testosterone (11-K-T), 11-keto-dihydro-testosterone (11-K-DHT) and 11-keto-androstenedione (11-K-A4)) were comparable to those of controls.

By contrast, normal concentrations were found for most steroid hormones in the serum of CHH males, while they were on hCG/rFSH replacement. Specifically, steroid profiles resembled those of healthy male controls, regarding the Δ 4 pathway of androgen biosynthesis (17-OHP) and the metabolite DHT, the marker steroid of an alternative T pathway via androstenediol, the Δ5 pathway steroids Δ5 steroid 17- pregnenolone, DHEAS and A4 and all aforementioned 11-oxygenated C19 androgens (11-K-A4, 11-K-T, 11-K-DHT). Serum progesterone was slightly decreased (p=0.0104), the testosterone metabolite E2 and the backdoor DHT pathway steroid androstanediol were increased (both p<0.0001).

Discussion

An optimal endocrine replacement strategy for hypogonadotropic hypogonadal males aims at normalizing all aspects of deficient androgenic action. While testosterone replacement has been used in clinical practice to solely convey androgenic effects, gonadotropins have been employed for the purpose of additionally initiating testicular growth and spermatogenesis 13.

The present study provides data on steroid hormone profiles of males with CHH, in which these two different replacement regimens were applied sequentially. The hormone concentrations in serum reflect the overall production of the hormone that is contributed to the bloodstream by each hormone-producing tissue. The naturally occurring “knockdown condition” of central hormonal stimulation of gonads, with uncompromised ACTH secretion that is present in CHH males, was used as a model, to enable delineation of gonadotropin effects on testicular and adrenal steroidogenic pathways involved in male androgen biosynthesis.
Specifically, hCG/rFSH-effects on serum steroid hormone concentrations of the classic Δ5 pathway of steroid biosynthesis, on concentrations of steroids of the Δ4 steroidogenic pathway, the alternative pathway of testosterone biosynthesis, the backdoor pathway of DHT synthesis, and on concentrations of the 11-oxygenated C19 androgen pathway were investigated. In addition, the serum levels of testosterone metabolites were investigated.

Our results indicate that the treatment of CHH males with gonadotropins results in steroid hormone profiles similar to those of healthy men, with few exceptions (E2, progesterone). However, this is not the case using a regimen based on exogenous testosterone. If testosterone is applied, steroidogenic pathways in testicles of CHH males remain unstimulated. By contrast, if hCG +rFSH are used, the LHCG receptor in Leydig cells is activated 14. In response, multiple steroids of the classical steroidogenic cascade are synthesized by the gonads, including the classic potent androgens T and DHT. This explains the differences observed in serum steroid levels in CHH males on the two different replacement regimens.

Summarized results and conclusions


These biochemical studies of serum steroid hormone patterns in CHH males on two different androgenic replacement regimens contribute to our knowledge of human steroidogenesis, specifically androgen production and it's regulation. Gonadotropins contribute to steroid production along the classic Δ4 pathway, by stimulation of 17-OHP production. In addition, gonadotropins co-activate an alternative pathway of T biosynthesis from DHEA via androstenediol.

However, Δ5 biosynthesis of 17-OH-pregnenolone, DHEA(S) seems fully gonadotropin-independent, and the production of androstenedione is largely gonadotropin-independent. Thus, an “adrenal-peripheral tissues-testicular collaboration” regarding androgen synthesis by classic or alternative pathways seems possible.

The 11-oxygenated C19 androgen pathway is activated independently of gonadotropins. The activity of the three DHT backdoor pathways (converging in androstanediol biosynthesis) is not increased by gonadotropins.


A replacement regimen with combined hCG/rFSH mimics physiologic steroid hormone profiles better than a substitution with exogenous testosterone. The documented differences in steroid profiles on testosterone replacement in hypogonadal males with absent or severely reduced endogenous LH and FSH secretion may have long term consequences for health and wellbeing. Specifically, body composition, bone health, glucose, and lipid metabolism, salt and water balance, cognition, mood, sleep, and sexual function could be affected. The steroidogenic differences could also be relevant for gonadotropin-suppressive treatments with long-acting testosterone preparations in males with primary hypogonadism. To what extent this hypothesis is true, should be addressed in future clinical studies.
 
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Too bad we have no data on the effect on upstream hormones with hCG alone and hCG+TRT versus TRT alone.

We know TRT or anabolics alone causes disruption:
 
A replacement regimen with combined hCG/rFSH mimics physiologic steroid hormone profiles better than a substitution with exogenous testosterone.

Other than a call for more research, why isn't this an approach as valid as TRT now? Or at least, more commonly used if not totally validated.
 
A replacement regimen with combined hCG/rFSH mimics physiologic steroid hormone profiles better than a substitution with exogenous testosterone.

Other than a call for more research, why isn't this an approach as valid as TRT now? Or at least, more commonly used if not totally validated.
The addition of FSH may help marginally, but anecdotally we have seen that hCG monotherapy is problematic; relatively few men are able to stay with it long-term. I've speculated that the long half-life of hCG—36 hours vs 20 minutes for LH—leads to excess aromatization, throwing off the estradiol balance. Even the current study notes that E2 was increased. There may also be other factors.
 
@Cataceous I know a few men on long term hCG monotherapy doing well. Also, estradiol estabilizes after a few injections.

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Δ4 pathway
Progesterone, 17-OH-progesterone (17 OHP)


One major finding of this study is that hCG/rFSH replacement stimulates and thus normalizes some important steroid hormones belonging to the Δ4 pathway of steroidogenesis in hypogonadotropic hypogonadal males. 17-OHP levels were significantly decreased on treatment with testosterone, but not while the males were on gonadotropin replacement, indicating that a major proportion of this precursor steroid is produced in the gonads and requires gonadotropin stimulation for secretion, while a minor part of it stems from other sources. It is likely that ACTH- stimulated production in the adrenal gland contributes to it.
@madman do you have the full PDF? Thanks


Was going to post yesterday but forgot.

A pure joy to read.

Thanks to one of the brightest minds who has contributed greatly to the field of endocrinology and andrology.

Julia Rohayem , Michael Zitzmann , Sandra Laurentino , Sabine Kliesch , Eberhard Nieschlag, Paul Martin Holterhus, Alexandra Kulle






Limitations

One limitation of the present study, regarding the investigation of gonadotropin-effects is that hCG was used to replace LH.
This substance may have slightly different properties regarding the activation of LHCG receptors 55. However, at present, rLH is not licensed for clinical use in males.
 
FROM THE PAPER: EFFECT ON ESTRADIOL (I am glad to see researchers agreeing that higher estradiol in the presence of higher testosterone is something good)

"17ß-estradiol

17ß-estradiol (E2), a major metabolite of testosterone, was found to be slightly elevated as compared to controls while patients were undergoing gonadotropin replacement. About 50-75 % of circulating E2 is derived from extragonadal aromatization of testosterone by fat, bone, brain, testes and other tissues 47.
Although we matched for serum T in both cohorts, mean serum T levels were slightly higher during gonadotropin application, compared to the situation during T treatment. This explains why T was aromatized to a greater extent during hCG/rFSH substitution. Alternatively, the higher E2 levels could be interpreted as an enhancement of aromatase activity by hCG/rFSH.
E2 acts on estrogen receptors alpha and beta (ERα and ERβ) that are present in reproductive organs, brain, bone, blood vessels, liver, and skin and breast tissue. Many biologic effects, hitherto attributed to testosterone are conveyed by estradiol: estrogen action is important for the regulation of spermatogenesis; E2 is involved in the regulation of the somatotropic axis, it mediates epiphyseal closure in bones, improves bone mineralization and bone microarchitecture, decreases fat mass, thereby favoring lean body mass. In addition, it positively affects glucose metabolism by enhancing insulin sensitivity, and conveys vasomotor stability 48-50."
 
Figure 4

-Serum steroid hormone concentrations of CHH males from alternative/backdoor pathways of androgen biosynthesis

-Serum androstenediol concentrations, representing the alternative pathway of testosterone formation, in CHH males on hCG/rFSH and T replacement, compared to those of healthy controls.

-Serum androstanediol concentrations, representing the backdoor pathway of DHT formation in CHH males, on gonadotropin and T replacement, and in healthy controls.


-Serum 11K T and 11 K DHT concentrations, representing the 11-oxygenated C19 androgen pathway in CHH males, on gonadotropin and T replacement, and in healthy controls.

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Figure 1
Pathways of human androgen biosynthesis

-The classic pathways, proceeding parallel for Δ5 and Δ4, convert steroidogenic precursors and lead to the formation of T, which can be further converted to DHT.


-The alternative pathway of T formation proceeds via androstenediol.

-The backdoor pathway proceeds via androstanediol to generate DHT.

-The 11-oxygenated C19 androgen pathway generates 11K T and 11 K DHT. The steroids measured in the present study are indicated in bold.


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Fantastic Madman! Something we’ve “known” for a long time, but good to see data to support. Fascinating to see the disparity in DHT comparing hCG/rFSH with T treatment and then baseline...despite higher T levels in the hCG/rFSH arm, DHT was significantly lower.
 
Figure 3 -Serum steroid hormone concentrations from Δ5 and Δ4 pathways of CHH males (including testosterone metabolites) analyzed by liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry (LC-MS/MS), once, while patients were undergoing hCG/rFSH treatment and again, while they were on T replacement, compared to those of healthy matched controls.
What we see is that with hCG serum estradiol is 0.65% of total testosterone versus 0.45% for TRT versus 0.46% for controls. This supports the idea of hCG upsetting the balance of estradiol.
 
What we see is that with hCG serum estradiol is 0.65% of total testosterone versus 0.45% for TRT versus 0.46% for controls. This supports the idea of hCG upsetting the balance of estradiol.


17ß-estradiol

17ß-estradiol (E2), a major metabolite of testosterone, was found to be slightly elevated as compared to controls while patients were undergoing gonadotropin replacement. About 50-75 % of circulating E2 is derived from extragonadal aromatization of testosterone by fat, bone, brain, testes and other tissues 47. Although we matched for serum T in both cohorts, mean serum T levels were slightly higher during gonadotropin application, compared to the situation during T treatment. This explains why T was aromatized to a greater extent during hCG/rFSH substitution. Alternatively, the higher E2 levels could be interpreted as an enhancement of aromatase activity by hCG/rFSH. E2 acts on estrogen receptors alpha and beta (ERα and ERβ) that are present in reproductive organs, brain, bone, blood vessels, liver, and skin and breast tissue. Many biologic effects, hitherto attributed to testosterone are conveyed by estradiol: estrogen action is important for the regulation of spermatogenesis; E2 is involved in the regulation of the somatotropic axis, it mediates epiphyseal closure in bones, improves bone mineralization and bone microarchitecture, decreases fat mass, thereby favoring lean body mass. In addition, it positively affects glucose metabolism by enhancing insulin sensitivity and conveys vasomotor stability 48-50.
 
Fantastic Madman! Something we’ve “known” for a long time, but good to see data to support. Fascinating to see the disparity in DHT comparing hCG/rFSH with T treatment and then baseline...despite higher T levels in the hCG/rFSH arm, DHT was significantly lower.


Long overdue to say the least and thankfully we have doctors like you!



DHT

DHT serum levels were comparable to controls in CHH males during hCG/rFSH replacement but were slightly increased after the patients were switched to exogenous testosterone, indicating that the pathways of DHT production are more active if exogenous testosterone is provided. DHT is known to result mainly from 5-alpha reduction of testosterone 45 and from the aforementioned backdoor pathway in adrenal and prostatic tissues. DHT exerts the strongest bioactivity on the AR 46.
 
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*E2 acts on estrogen receptors alpha and beta (ERα and ERβ) that are present in reproductive organs, brain, bone, blood vessels, liver, and skin and breast tissue. Many biologic effects, hitherto attributed to testosterone are conveyed by estradiol: estrogen action is important for the regulation of spermatogenesis; E2 is involved in the regulation of the somatotropic axis, it mediates epiphyseal closure in bones, improves bone mineralization and bone microarchitecture, decreases fat mass, thereby favoring lean body mass. In addition, it positively affects glucose metabolism by enhancing insulin sensitivity and conveys vasomotor stability.
 
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