Spartan1985
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Yeah I’d agree with the less substances the better for both monitoring and health reasons. I haven’t had great results with hcg and feel it’s added to the problem as the best stability has been found without it, that’s why I was interested in why Rotngun was suggesting add that dose at the moment. Just out of interest of learning as not in any position of understanding to doubt his input. I’m happy with your previous suggestion it makes sense so Prop ordered, should be here this week. Last E jag was Thursday so will start daily delt shots Friday onwards at the dose you suggested and see how things settle from there. Can prop be taken via insulin needle subQ as that would be a bit easier to deal with if possible due to no experience of self administered injections other than subQ hcg or pt141? Thanks I’ll have a read through that just now. Really appreciate everyone’s response it’s been good even getting to be able to talk about this stuff. Only know 1 or 2 guys at the gym on TRT and both say they feel 18 again always horny and full of energy with superb erection quality which probably makes my experience seem worseI don't think it makes sense in using HCG if you're having Estradiol issues, as HCG is known to increase it to a good degree. You should find what works for by using the least amount of substances, adding other substances should be done after you stabilized the protocol you currently run. Also HCG doesn't need to be injected everyday, 2-3x a week is fine, because of its half life. 75 IU/day (525 IU/week) also isn't a too high of a dose, I'd say the typical weekly dose is 500-1000 IU.
Test P is great for many reasons and one of them is quick symptom relief and saturation, you should have stable blood levels after 1 week. This means you can very quickly adjust your protocol, which is great if you're experimenting on how your body works and reacts. However I'd still do regular blood tests to see where you stand with some dose. While it's not bad to try out a lower dose, the reality is that if your trough is at 500 with 120mg/week, then with 84mg/week your dose might be too low and you'd feel bad. Nothing wrong with trying it out anyway, but having some data at least explains what's going on and sets some expectations. Personally I did regular blood tests during my experimentation, but I mostly tested just total T and E2, as this was enough to tell me what's going on, and to keep the costs of tests as low as possible.
If your interested here is my own thread about my experimentation with a bunch of updates: Test P improved TRT, libido still at 0 – what next?