E2 Management via ED Injections - Question for CoastWatcher

[TMI]

Also... Dr. Saya did not think my SHBG of 37 precluded me from ED injections as the goal is to minimize the T peak and thus conversion to E2.

I am wondering why the peak would lead to a higher conversion rate compared to the absolute level.

Also, do you supplement with B12?

 

[CoastWatcher]

I agree with Nelson as I could see using suspension ED or prop E2D but using cypionate or enanthate ED you will get overlap due to the esters half lives.

As Coastwatcher stated his protocol may work for some but not others. No harm in trying it out though.

As Dr. Saya has noted, only an ester chain will produce a true serum level that is steady-state. The benefits, for me, are remarkable. Let's hope that continues in light of the decision Mega and Dr. Saya committed to today!

 

[CoastWatcher]

I am wondering why the peak would lead to a higher conversion rate compared to the absolute level.

Also, do you supplement with B12?

Can you explain what you mean by "absolute level"?

 

[TMI]

I agree with Nelson as I could see using suspension ED or prop E2D but using cypionate or enanthate ED you will get overlap due to the esters half lives.

As Coastwatcher stated his protocol may work for some but not others. No harm in trying it out though.

FWIW, plots of t suspension (first graph) and t cypionate (second graph) @ 16mg/day x 6 weeks (from steroidcalc.com):

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[TMI]

Can you explain what you mean by "absolute level"?

The level at any given moment; not necessarily the peak or trough. "Absolute" is probably the wrong word.

Edit to add: if you look at the above post with the graphs, I am curious why the first protocol would lead to more aromatization/E2 (it's more "peaky"). Or if it really would.

 

[TMI]

As Dr. Saya has noted, only an ester chain will produce a true serum level that is steady-state. The benefits, for me, are remarkable. Let's hope that continues in light of the decision Mega and Dr. Saya committed to today!

I've recently gone to daily injections of t cyp myself. No feedback yet, but that graph looks good to me.

 

[Deleted member 14271]

It is my belief that anytime the body senses a sudden influx/rise in testosterone (a peak) the body responds by taking measures to bind up and metabolize what it considers excess in an attempt to reach homeostasis (genetically/receptor mediated of course). I also believe that due to genetic factors some metabolize and bind with varying degrees of efficiency/effectiveness. Perhaps this explains why some tend to have a more difficult time managing E2 than others. If my E2 drops due to more frequent injections that would tend to support the above: less spike... less conversion.

To answer a previous question, I did supplement with injectable B12 but had not injected for 4 weeks prior so it was surprising to see the elevated B12.

 

[Deleted member 14271]

BTW Coast... the needles you use are 1/2" correct? What are your preferred injection sites?

 

[CoastWatcher]

BTW Coast... the needles you use are 1/2" correct? What are your preferred injection sites?

Either 1/2, 5/8, or - best of all - an insulin syringe. If I can reach it, I will inject it. Thighs, glutes, shoulders, the very rare love handle shot (very little fat there for me to work with). I decided, when I made this commitment, not to worry, probably best to say, not to think about, scarring. It's a cost of doing business. You will reach a point very quickly that the actual physical injection is done on autopilot.

 

[Vince]

Your numbers look pretty good, nice DHT number. I wouldn't worry about that E2. With those nice numbers, I would use them for working out and clean eating. I think you will do great.
I tried daily injections of sermorelin and hated injecting everyday. I hope daily goes better for you.