Also just to clarify on 1, 3, and 9....using LCMS and dialysis methods:
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This is a great list. I'm taking telimasartan twice daily for bp but I learned it can decrease water retention. Appetite increase for sure. Hard to fast for long lol. Strength and muscle fullness for sure. All this on 120 mgs test and 60 mgs nandrolone.
The best erections I ever had were when I was using a nandrolone base with a small amount of test to keep E2 in range. They were basically diamonds, and on demand. Pretty sure most of the guys I know that have used a nandrolone based protocol also concur with improved erections. Everyone is obv different, but nandrolone is one of those compounds that is highly variable, in regards to its results and how it effects someone, based on their personal makeup, and how they’re using it. When it comes to nandrolone, u can’t ever generalize with it, in regards to how it can affect someone. Some guys it makes them feel worse than they’ve ever felt when adding it to their test based protocol, and some guys feel better than they’ve ever felt using a nandrolone based protocol, or sometimes even when adding it to a test based protocol. Some guys get ED on nandrolone, and some guys get the best erections of their life using it. And how u use it makes a big difference as well. I’m using it on top of my test based protocol atm, and erections are pretty consistently solid, but nowhere near the consistency and erection quality that I had when I was using a nandrolone based protocol. They would be like diamonds, and stay hard for literally as long as I wanted, and I could get erect very quickly whenever I needed to. So how nandrolone effects guys just depends on a lot of factors, and nobody can ever generalize with it, in regards to how guys are gonna respond to taking it
So do you over aromatize on testosterone. I mean I wonder what your sweet spot is because low estradiol will cause problems in that department too, right?
That’s a good question. I don’t think I overly aromatize or anything. Think I’m about average as far as my aromatization rate goes. Yes, low E2 can absolutely cause sexual issues. In regards to libido and erection quality. But obv “low E2” is very individual as far as a number goes. My sweetspot when I was using a nandrolone based protocol was when I was using 200mg of nandrolone, and 60mg of test. My E2 was around 35. I also added 1000iu’s of HCG to that at one point, and can’t remember if I felt better or worse in any areas, or didn’t feel any changes at all, but when I added it in, my E2 went up to around 45.
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I thought it was funny. Evidently I am weird. Diamond, huh? ...don't put any eyes out? Quality IMO but I will take one for the team. There is no I in TEAM...but there is is an I in PENIS.
Nobody can ever deny that nandrolone can cause ED in some men. It 1000% can. And out of all the AAS that u can take, I would say nandrolone has the highest risk of causing it. I can’t think of one AAS that that has caused more men to have erection issues. I was just saying that we can’t generalize when we talk about nandrolone, and say that ED is a common side effect. But it is a potential side effect for sure. So ur not wrong at all for what u said. I was just giving my anecdote, and the experiences of others that I know on a nandrolone based protocol, to show that nandrolone is extremely dependent on how ur using it, and what ur using it with, and obv the person’a individual makeup, when it comes to how it’s gonna effect the person
Amen brother.
Nelson, I was just on this forum reading. I just started TRT last month. I was reading and saw all the questions and answers that you were firing off! Wow, Nelson, you are a super helpful and knowledgeable guy and I wanted to just reply on your post to say, "Thank you" as well!
You are welcome!
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