Could there be any way to eke some usefulness out of remaining cypionate without shutting down?

[Deleted member 42882]

I know the answer is NO, but feel free to humor me. Has anyone tried this, or does anyone have a hypothesis of how it might be able to be done?

I'm off trt and producing. I have an open vial with 8mlx200mg left. Could there be a sweetspot where I might get some benefit taking a certain amount on a certain schedule where I might not shut down? I know if it's possible, it would be very brief and long between, but is there any way?

I assume once the honeymoon period starts, it's too late...but is there any chance?

 

[Systemlord]

Could there be a sweetspot where I might get some benefit taking a certain amount on a certain schedule where I might not shut down?

Yes, Natesto.

I know the answer is NO

You answered it correctly.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

It would be interesting to try adding in a very low dose of clomid, check T levels, and then add in a low dose of T (like 20mg) every other week before your most intense workout period of the week, and then check T levels after a few months of that and see if you can maintain baseline levels. Citizen science.

 

[Systemlord]

Official Natesto Thread

 

[sammmy]

You can try to drop small amounts TCyp in the nose, imitating Natesto. The long half life of TCyp when injected in the muscle does not apply in this case since that won't be a depo and the ester is cleaved very fast once in the blood.

The oral Jatenzo uses TUndecanoate, which has a very long half life when injected in the muscle but gives fast daily variations when taken orally. That shows that once the ester is in the blood, it is cleaved to pure T very fast.

 

[Cataceous]

You can try to drop small amounts TCyp in the nose, imitating Natesto. The long half life of TCyp when injected in the muscle does not apply in this case since that won't be a depo and the ester is cleaved very fast once in the blood.
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If this works then perhaps buccal or sublingual administration would also be viable, and a little easier?

 

[sammmy]

Oral administration may work too, there is just presence of saliva that will easily wash it off and digestive enzymes in the saliva that might do something to it before absorption. Testicular application may work too.

Natesto chose the nose, so that the bolus stays intact for a long period of time being absorbed.

 

[Banderas]

Esterified testosterone (atleast propionate) absorb through skin when dissolved in an ethanol/water solution, and was rapidly converted to testosterone base according to this study done on rats Skin Permeation of Testosterone and its Ester Derivatives in Rats

I think it will have higher absorption rate sublingually compared to transdermally. Dissolve your cypionate in vodka and apply it sublingually. For even higher absorption add cyclodextrine.

 

[bixt]

Perhaps one could also try rectal administration, mix it with an enema and squeeze it up your butt

In vitro release of testosterone from suppository bases and in vivo absorption studies in human males - PubMed

Diffusion rates of testosterone from various suppository bases with and without surfactants were determined. In a limited study, selected suppository formulations were evaluated for efficiency of rectal absorption of testosterone in three male volunteers ranging in age from 25 to 30 years...

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