Calling All Long-Term TRT Users! How is Your Libido and Sexual Function?

[jobshopper]

Age: 68
Been on TRT almost 5 years.
I use 80mg E3-1/2D = 160mg weekly.
Libido: 8-10
Erection quality varies since I have sex 3 - 4 times per week but is probably 8 -10.
Orgasm strength is generally incredible. 8 - 10. I take 2000mg of DLPA in the morning (when I generally get lucky) on an empty stomach. Don't take it with other amino acids as they compete with each other... might blowing orgasms!
Volume: It's not what it once was but Pygeum helps me volume a lot... maybe it's just me since everyone is different. Probably 6-7.

 

[bennettjc]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age?

2. How long have you been on TRT?

3. What's your current protocol?

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

1- 59 y/o
2- 1 year on TRT
3- 120mg a week of testosterone enanthate, IM, split into 3 dosings plus 250iu of HCG three times a week SubQ
4-Libido is 7/10. Used to be 5/10
5-Erection quality is 8/10
6-Orgasm strength is 8/10
7-Ejaculate volume is 3/10. Always has been small in volume based on what I have seen.

 

[tropicaldaze1950]

I apologize to the OP and everyone else for derailing this thread. What I'm dealing with has zero to do with the original post.

 

[Stpfan]

I’m surprised u need 0.5mg of an ai per week on just 120mg of test per week. What symptoms did u have on this dose of test prior to using an ai?

Have u ever tried HCG for more ejaculate volume? Here’s a list of things some guy took, and labeled it “the holy grail” for increasing ejaculate volume lol. I saved it incase I ever have issues in that area. And I’ll post a video I saved where another guy talks about what he uses. I think sunflower lecithin and lecithin might be the same tbhbg

The Cum Holy Grail

(1) L-Arginine, 1000mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1000mg

(2) Zinc, 50mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 50mg

(3) Pygeum, 100mg Strength, Taken 2 times daily = 200mg

(4) Lecithin, 1200mg Strength, Taken 1 time daily = 1200mg

I take 1-3. The lecithin made it too thick for me. I also drink about a gallon of water a day and eat tons of hard boiled eggs. I’ve been on trt for 7 years and fill the old lady like crazy.

I can't believe people follow this guy on youtube and believe him. He is just another snake oil salesman. I have spoken to this guy directly. He is a full blown liar. He said I should be taken 300mg Test Cyp (minimum) weekly to cure my ED... and he wanted me to pay for his advice.

 

[Cooper]

Would have been helpful if along with the question concerning erection strength the responses would have included information as to if they used daily Cialis or not.

 

[xcpatr922]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age?

46 ( biological age )
girl saying I am 31-38 from last census.

2. How long have you been on TRT?

7 months

3. What's your current protocol?

135-140 mg/week T-Cy daily + HCG.

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

I combine with cialis daily+PT-141: libido is too high, even better than my 19 sometimes. Score is 7-8.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

score of 9. Sometimes I used Trimix/Bimix. Totally become new person. I don't know that it's this good before. Holy cow, all these problems is in hormone.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

yea orgasm is funny....depend on the partner, when everything is perfect, score of 8
if not perfect, score of 5-6, still acceptable. Seems more dependent on what I ate before. THis question is very good and very complicated at the same time.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words.

Volume in score of 9, as I combined with Pygeum/Semenax. Also if I add more HCG sometimes, the volume is higer.

Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

I'm happy for this question.

In short word, TRT is the best thing that ever happened to me. Also many thanks for all the folks here, impressive knowledge. I change my protocol based on the input of the expert here.

 

[ERO]

46 ( biological age )
girl saying I am 31-38 from last census.

57, on TRY for 10 years
7 months


135-140 mg/week T-Cy daily + HCG.

100mg a week T cyp, 60 mg a week Nandrolone, 5mg daily Cialis

I combine with cialis daily+PT-141: libido is too high, even better than my 19 sometimes. Score is 7-8.

Libido is low, ability to build muscle or lose fat is low to none.

score of 9. Sometimes I used Trimix/Bimix. Totally become new person. I don't know that it's this good before. Holy cow, all these problems is in hormone.

Score 6 unless using Quad Mix, then 9.


yea orgasm is funny....depend on the partner, when everything is perfect, score of 8
if not perfect, score of 5-6, still acceptable. Seems more dependent on what I ate before. THis question is very good and very complicated at the same time.

Volumn is low



Volume in score of 9, as I combined with Pygeum/Semenax. Also if I add more HCG sometimes, the volume is higer.

Volume is low

I'm happy for this question.

In short word, TRT is the best thing that ever happened to me. Also many thanks for all the folks here, impressive knowledge. I change my protocol based on the input of the expert here.

TRT has always been a disappointment for me. Never lived up to even basic, but realistic expectations of improved libido, improved ability to build a little muscle or lose a little fat. Better than not being on TRT, but just bearly. Like 1 additional point on a 1 to 10 scale.

 

[Willyt]

I combine with cialis daily+PT-141: libido is too high, even better than my 19 sometimes. Score is 7-8.

What dose are you taking for both?

 

[xcpatr922]

the pt-141 only every 4-5 days with very small dosage, it has lot of benefits. There's noticeable differences when cialis is taking daily. I got this advice from one of the T book.

 

[xcpatr922]

This is F**King UNrealistic for most!

Libido 15
Erection quality 15
Orgasm strength 20


Unfortunately, when it comes to libido let alone ED they are multifactorial and there is much more involved than just having healthy hormones (TT, FT, estradiol, DHT, prolactin).

Underlying vascular health is critical!

Having healthy testosterone levels is beneficial to one's libido/erectile function but it is far from the only thing that is required to having a healthy libido.

Thyroid/adrenals, neurotransmitters, insulin sensitivity, stress (mental/physical), quality of sleep, diet, underlying vascular health to name a few can all have a big impact on one's libido/erectile function.

Libido/ED is much more complex than simply having healthy testosterone levels.

Even then when it comes to trt and libido many tend to get caught up in thinking that it will be through the roof once they hop on trt and get to the point of so-called dialed in let alone cure any ED issues they may have.

When you find that happy place you should have a healthy libido not raging, savage, insane.

There are many men who will see an improvement in libido, others will continue to struggle, some may even end up worse off than before trt and some of the lucky ones will see a drastic improvement.

Oooh this is such a good summary. I've experienced it all.I want to add based on my actual experiences.

Thyroid/adrenals: I have less knowledge on this but I'm in normal side.

neurotransmitters: the more drugs/supplement people use, the more chaotic the neurotransmitter is.

insulin sensitivity: this is where TRT helps a lot. higher T -->loss body fat -->less insulin resistance.

stress (mental/physical)--->TRT helped also indirectly as we have more muscle and thus less stress..

quality of sleep---> TRT is neutral here but good if all fundamental issue like apnea,stress is addressed first.

diet-->this is where my low carb helps. And actually, I kinda agree the HCG helps adding few more hours for me not take any food.

>>>I think too many get caught up in expecting to feel great 24/7 once on trt as if >>>testosterone is going to cure all that ails them.

Yes it takes time but in sexuality I think TRT is the fundamental block. When I went to vacation and only took T every 5 days, I started noticing drop of libido. Came back to everyday and things are great again. It's that quick. It still takes times I agree and lot of trial and error to find what works especially for you.

Also for sexual thing/intimacy, there're more important thing than what's all above which is the partner itself LOL I learnt so much from many folks in this subject. I agree many times it's in your brain after the hormone stuff is fixed.

 

[DixieWrecked]

the pt-141 only every 4-5 days with very small dosage, it has lot of benefits. There's noticeable differences when cialis is taking daily. I got this advice from one of the T book.

Interesting. Do you feel a perpetual boost in libido or do you feel it for about a day after injection or what?

 

[xcpatr922]

Interesting. Do you feel a perpetual boost in libido or do you feel it for about a day after injection or what?

within 24 hours but pretty random

 

[Trf85912609]

I wanted to give some of you long-term users a quick quiz, just so we can develop some neat anecdotal data points from this forum.

If you have the time, please answer the following questions: (I apologize if they're a touch personal)


1. What is your age? 63

2. How long have you been on TRT? 8 weeks

3. What's your current protocol? Can't remember the mg, but an injection every 2 weeks.

4. How is your libido/desire for sex? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words. About a 6 or 7.

5. How is your erection quality? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words. 2-3 I have to take Trimix to achieve a good erection.

6. How is your orgasm strength? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words. Haven't been able to reach an orgasm during sex. Have to finish myself.

7. How is your ejaculate volume? Either rate out of 10, or describe in your own words. About a 6-7.


Thanks so much for taking the time! I appreciate every response.

 

[Graham]

the pt-141 only every 4-5 days with very small dosage, it has lot of benefits. There's noticeable differences when cialis is taking daily. I got this advice from one of the T book.

I got nothing from pt141, injectable or sublingual.

 

[DixieWrecked]

within 24 hours but pretty random

That's what I notices as well. Just totally random. I may try it again using your protocol. I gotta take it an night though because that stuff makes me sick to my stomach.

 

[Strengthandlibido]

Volume is low


TRT has always been a disappointment for me. Never lived up to even basic, but realistic expectations of improved libido, improved ability to build a little muscle or lose a little fat. Better than not being on TRT, but just bearly. Like 1 additional point on a 1 to 10 scale.

Libido should not come as a promise with TRT because libido is too subtle and complex for such blunt tools as testosterone and hCG, but I'm surprised to see that you didn't at least see more pronounced changes to body composition, which TRT is a great tool for, especially as doses increase.

 

[Graham]

Libido should not come as a promise with TRT because libido is too subtle and complex for such blunt tools as testosterone and hCG, but I'm surprised to see that you didn't at least see more pronounced changes to body composition, which TRT is a great tool for, especially as doses increase.

I agree trt is pretty useful, just not reliable for everyone regarding libido/erections

 

[JYD21]

46 ( biological age )
girl saying I am 31-38 from last census.




7 months



135-140 mg/week T-Cy daily + HCG.



I combine with cialis daily+PT-141: libido is too high, even better than my 19 sometimes. Score is 7-8.



score of 9. Sometimes I used Trimix/Bimix. Totally become new person. I don't know that it's this good before. Holy cow, all these problems is in hormone.




yea orgasm is funny....depend on the partner, when everything is perfect, score of 8
if not perfect, score of 5-6, still acceptable. Seems more dependent on what I ate before. THis question is very good and very complicated at the same time.



Volume in score of 9, as I combined with Pygeum/Semenax. Also if I add more HCG sometimes, the volume is higer.



I'm happy for this question.

In short word, TRT is the best thing that ever happened to me. Also many thanks for all the folks here, impressive knowledge. I change my protocol based on the input of the expert here.

Nice update. What were your levels and issues before you started TRT this year? Thanks.

 

[xcpatr922]

Nice update. What were your levels and issues before you started TRT this year? Thanks.

before TT 350 FT 35....now it's like TT 500-600 FT 110-120
Issues: libido, almost no erection, fat accumulation, higher glucose,phrenic nerve/asthma

my current issue after TRT: how to control when everything goes back to 25 years old again haha

 

[Fortunate]

This was a fun thread. I'd like to wake it back up. Can I add a few data points and questions to the OP's question? Feel free to re-post or update your protocol, and please include:

• Height and weight
• if you dose every 3.5 days, on the days you inject later in the day, does it affect your sleep?

It's interesting to see that people respond to such different protocols. I have not seen any references to titrating dosing based on size (weight or BMI), but it seems like there should be some correlation. @madman, any thoughts?