Been on Trestolone for 2 weeks

[eli]

I used injectable Trestolone for three weeks (50 mg a day) on top of my regular TRT 200 mg tat cyp (split into 2 3.5 day doses)I noticed a tremendous increase in libido, more muscle build up, and a small increase in strength. My libido was great on TRT but on trestolone it was through the roof, actually too much. With that, I got some overheating during the evening and some water retention. I doubled on arimidex to be safe. Now, the source was on line and probably not pharma grade. The cool thing is that trestolone is not illegal in the U.S. But also not available on prescription. Still technically a research chemical. I understand the risk of consuming something mot pharma grade but my symptoms positive and negative were spot on. I am doing some blood test tomorrow to see the results. I would do it again.

That's a huge dose....

You need 30mg a week

 

[SSHSSA74]

That's a huge dose....

You need 30mg a week

Did you take an AI with Trestolone?

 

[eli]

Did you take an AI with Trestolone?

I did not
It's very hard to find trest now tho

 

[SSHSSA74]

I did not
It's very hard to find trest now tho

Ok. thanks. I have found it a couple of places

 

[eli]

Ok. thanks. I have found it a couple of places

There's a shortage of it's raws so be carful, pm me and tell me which ones and I'll do a check on them

 

[SSHSSA74]

There's a shortage of it's raws so be carful, pm me and tell me which ones and I'll do a check on them

Will do. Thanks.

 

[BuddhaNature123]

15mg trest decanoate every 2 days. I feel calm serene confident good energy and great libido, sleep is excellent. Feel better than ever. Was on test e 250mg weekly for years and dropped it completely. Only trest d. Will try trest e when this runs out.

Vascular and full.

It’s like test but way better. Zero hair loss which is why I switched.

 

[Forty2]

15mg trest decanoate every 2 days. I feel calm serene confident good energy and great libido, sleep is excellent. Feel better than ever. Was on test e 250mg weekly for years and dropped it completely. Only trest d. Will try trest e when this runs out.

Vascular and full.

It’s like test but way better. Zero hair loss which is why I switched.

So what are your TT and free T numbers on trest only?

 

[Nujace]

15mg trest decanoate every 2 days. I feel calm serene confident good energy and great libido, sleep is excellent. Feel better than ever. Was on test e 250mg weekly for years and dropped it completely. Only trest d. Will try trest e when this runs out.

Vascular and full.

It’s like test but way better. Zero hair loss which is why I switched.

I love these non traditional protocols. How long you been doing it? Do you have multiple rounds of bloods to view while you have been on trest? Also how old are you? Thanks

 

[Deleted member 43589]

Sex drive wayy better than being on Test, I feel great, strength is higher. Taking 50mg a week total, doing EOD injections.

it's been only two weeks tho, so god knows. I'm a low SHBG guy and this doesn't bind to SHBG so that's why I tried it.

If anyone else has any experiences, please let me know t

Sex drive wayy better than being on Test, I feel great, strength is higher. Taking 50mg a week total, doing EOD injections.

it's been only two weeks tho, so god knows. I'm a low SHBG guy and this doesn't bind to SHBG so that's why I tried it.

If anyone else has any experiences, please let me know too

Trestolone is a 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate but unlike the rest of the 19-nor family, trestolone will not lower libido. Trestolone does have the ability to aromatize, in fact more that testosterone so make sure to not let that get out of control. I don't know anyone that has done a low dose as most go 200-500mg/wk.

Yes, you are right, trestolone does not bind to SHBG so small amounts work well to give max benefits.

Kumar N, Didolkar AK, Monder C, Bardin CW, Sundaram K. The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone. Endocrinology. 1992 Jun;130(6):3677-83. doi: 10.1210/endo.130.6.1597164. PMID: 1597164.

The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone - PubMed

Based on the premise that testosterone, but not 7 alpha-methyl-androgens, is reduced at the 5 alpha-position in the prostate and seminal vesicles, the differential bioactivities of these androgens were investigated in castrated rats. The ability of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Gman86]

Trestolone is a 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate but unlike the rest of the 19-nor family, trestolone will not lower libido. Trestolone does have the ability to aromatize, in fact more that testosterone so make sure to not let that get out of control. I don't know anyone that has done a low dose as most go 200-500mg/wk.

Yes, you are right, trestolone does not bind to SHBG so small amounts work well to give max benefits.

Kumar N, Didolkar AK, Monder C, Bardin CW, Sundaram K. The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone. Endocrinology. 1992 Jun;130(6):3677-83. doi: 10.1210/endo.130.6.1597164. PMID: 1597164.

The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone - PubMed

Based on the premise that testosterone, but not 7 alpha-methyl-androgens, is reduced at the 5 alpha-position in the prostate and seminal vesicles, the differential bioactivities of these androgens were investigated in castrated rats. The ability of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

So is trestolone a progestin like nandrolone is?

 

[Deleted member 43589]

While this drug is not sold at the pharmacy, there does seem to be some research backing its claims.

Eberhard Nieschlag, Narender Kumar, Régine Sitruk-Ware. 7α-Methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENTR): the Population Council's contribution to research on male contraception and treatment of hypogonadism. Contraception. Volume 87, Issue 3, 2013, Pages 288-295,
ISSN 0010-7824, Redirecting.
(7α-Methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENTR): the Population Council's contribution to research on male contraception and treatment of hypogonadism)

Abstract: Testosterone is an essential part of all regimens for hormonal male contraception tested to date. Initial efficacy trials revealed that the half-life of the testosterone preparations available at that time was too short to be used for male contraception. The ensuing search for long-acting preparations yielded testosterone buciclate and undecanoate as well as 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENT). Following description of the principle of male hormonal contraception and the efficacy trials performed to date, the systematic development of MENT for substitution of male hypogonadism and use in male contraception by the Population Council is reviewed here.

Anderson RA, Wallace AM, Sattar N, Kumar N, Sundaram K (June 2003). "Evidence for tissue selectivity of the synthetic androgen 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone in hypogonadal men". J. Clin. Endocrinol. Metab. 88 (6): 2784–93. doi:10.1210/jc.2002-021960. PMID 12788888.

7Alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone maintains sexual behavior and mood in hypogonadal men - PubMed

The synthetic steroid 7alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENT) is a potent androgen that is resistant to 5alpha-reductase. It thus has decreased activity at the prostate and may have advantages over testosterone-based regimens in long term treatment or as part of a male contraceptive...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

García-Becerra R, Ordaz-Rosado D, Noé G, Chávez B, Cooney AJ, Larrea F (2012). "Comparison of 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone effectiveness alone or combined with progestins on androgen receptor mediated-transactivation". Reproduction. 143 (2): 211–9. doi:10.1530/REP-11-0171. PMID 22065861

Comparison of 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone effectiveness alone or combined with progestins on androgen receptor mediated-transactivation

7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENT) is an androgen with potent gonadotropin inhibitory activity and prostate-sparing effects. These attributes give MENT advantages over testosterone as a male contraceptive, but, as in the case of testosterone, a partial dose-dependent suppression of...

rep.bioscientifica.com

This is from 1963.....no abstract available
Lyster SC, Duncan GW (July 1963). "Anabolic, androgenic and myotropic activities of derivatives of 7alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone". Acta Endocrinol. 43 (3): 399–411. doi:10.1530/acta.0.0430399. PMID 13931986.

Ma JB, Li ZS (1990). "[Synthesis of 4-substituted 17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methyl-4-estren-3-one and their 17-acetates as antifertility compounds]". Yao Xue Xue Bao (in Chinese). 25 (1): 18–23. PMID 2363352.

[Synthesis of 4-substituted 17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methyl-4-estren-3-one and their 17-acetates as antifertility compounds] - PubMed

Guided by antiprogestational screening results, 4-substituted(4-OH, 4-Cl, 4-Br, and 4-OMe) 17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methyl-4-estren-3-one and their 17-acetate were synthesized via 4 beta, 5 beta-epoxy-17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methylestran-3-one from 17 beta-hydroxy-7 alpha-methyl-4-estren-3-one...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Sundaram K, Kumar N, Bardin CW (1994). "7 alpha-Methyl-19-nortestosterone: an ideal androgen for replacement therapy". Recent Prog. Horm. Res. 49: 373–6. doi:10.1016/b978-0-12-571149-4.50027-1. ISBN 9780125711494. PMID 8146434.

7α-Methyl-19-nortestosterone: An Ideal Androgen for Replacement Therapy

This chapter explores the biopotency and metabolism of 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone (MENT). Several forms of hypogonadism are associated with decrease…

www.sciencedirect.com

 

[Deleted member 43589]

So is trestolone a progestin like nandrolone is?

According to the following reference

García-Becerra R, Ordaz-Rosado D, Noé G, Chávez B, Cooney AJ, Larrea F (2012). "Comparison of 7α-methyl-19-nortestosterone effectiveness alone or combined with progestins on androgen receptor mediated-transactivation". Reproduction. 143 (2): 211–9. doi:10.1530/REP-11-0171. PMID 22065861.

" Trestolone also has potent progestogenic activity. Both the androgenic and progestogenic activity of trestolone are thought to be involved in its antigonadotropic activity."

 

[Deleted member 43589]

Here is agreat video covering Trestolone

 

[Omi7276]

To be honest with you, only your blood work will tell you that. Add the 50mg to your TRT and first see how you feel. If you feel great, then get blood work done after a few weeks to see how your body is handling it. It's the most powerful steroid and 10 times more anabolic than testosterone so feel free to drop the dose if you don't like your bloodwork.

My TRT dose was 90mgs a week of Test, and I felt like shit due to low SHBG even with great numbers, and any other doses than 90 felt even shittier. But now at 50mg of Trest, I'm definetly fuller and more pumped

Anu evidence that trestolons doesn't bind to SHBG

 

[Omi7276]

Trestolone is a 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate but unlike the rest of the 19-nor family, trestolone will not lower libido. Trestolone does have the ability to aromatize, in fact more that testosterone so make sure to not let that get out of control. I don't know anyone that has done a low dose as most go 200-500mg/wk.

Yes, you are right, trestolone does not bind to SHBG so small amounts work well to give max benefits.

Kumar N, Didolkar AK, Monder C, Bardin CW, Sundaram K. The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone. Endocrinology. 1992 Jun;130(6):3677-83. doi: 10.1210/endo.130.6.1597164. PMID: 1597164.

The biological activity of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone is not amplified in male reproductive tract as is that of testosterone - PubMed

Based on the premise that testosterone, but not 7 alpha-methyl-androgens, is reduced at the 5 alpha-position in the prostate and seminal vesicles, the differential bioactivities of these androgens were investigated in castrated rats. The ability of 7 alpha-methyl-19-nortestosterone acetate...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Does that also mean it wont crush SHBG like other androgens ?

 

[Omi7276]

For sure! No Testosterone. Trestolone Acetate Solo, only 50mg a week. Mine comes in 50mg / ML. No AIs. Doing 29 Slin units EOD

Won't you aromatize a lot more to E2, since u have low SHBG?