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Nothing to worry about. You will be fine. You may notice a slight increase in water or nipple sensitivity.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0306453021002559

What an excellent post. Thank you for sharing this.

Really good to hear you are doing well. There’s not enough success stories around here. How long have you been on this protocol?

My father and uncle are in that club, while I’m over here always tweaking trying to figure out what will work for me long-term. The men who do not do well or have issues on TRT are certainly the minority.

It would depend on the resiliency of a man’s HPTA. Many men get off of TRT, take Clomid and end up with a TT of 80 ng/dL. Other men resume normal T production and end up with 500 ng/dL. For the latter group, Clomid monotherapy should work for fertility. In the former, Clomid is unlikely to bring...

Clomid could work by mildly assisting in an HPTA restart, thus prompting natural testosterone secretion in the testicles and sperm production. However, you would have to cease exogenous testosterone for some period of time to achieve this, if at all. HCG can be used while on TRT to maintain...

If you’re doctor prescribes through Empower, they may be able to get it. I just saw HCG is added back to their product catalogue. My wife and I were able to. Thanks for asking. We have an 11-month old boy now. HCG by itself at 500 iu 3x weekly did the trick. I’ve always responded well - in...

I feel you on this. Two years ago I was trying to get my wife pregnant and experienced the same while using 500 IU HCG 3x weekly. I ended up backing off of T from 200 mg weekly to 50 mg weekly to combat the negative mental side effects. HCG’s effect on mood are more complex than raising estrogen...

This is cool. One important note, HCG also suppresses the HPTA. It is an LH analog, bypassing the HPTA entirely. It stimulates the testes directly. HCG while on TRT or on cycle can prevent testicular atrophy as well as keep Leydig and Sertoli cells from going dormant. Additionally, HCG acts...

Escalating zero point is alive and well.

The main issue that you are hitting on is clinically diagnosable body distortion (dysmorphia). Men on TRT who train hard, eat religiously, and take their TT to upper end physiological or even slightly supraphyiological levels in order to obtain body composition changes should not be chastised...

Tisk tisk. How dare men want to improve their body composition.

Exactly what you are describing WAS me several years ago. What was I doing? 200 mg TC weekly, Anastrozole several times per week, and no HCG. Side effects? High sex drive mentally, but penile insensitivity and an inability to orgasm. What worked for me? Lowering my T dosage to 100 mg per week...

As if libido were quantifiable.

1:1 ratio. 200 mg per week.

There are several anecdotes suggesting this may not play out as suspected in the real world. @Gman86?

Any of your DHT-derivatives like Anavar, Masteron, Primo, Proviron, etc. would be likely to cause low estrogen symptoms with only HCG as a base. You can always try it and see how you feel. Nandrolone, on the other hand, may be better suited for this experiment given that it would actually...

I’ve experienced joint pain from HCG in years past. This always occurred when using too much HCG (which is an individualized number). The most likely explanation is an increased level of progesterone in the testicles opposing estrogenic activity at the estrogen receptor. The higher the dose of...

HCG alone with Primo won’t likely give you enough estrogenic activity leaving you with low estrogen symptoms. In the past when I’ve paired primo and test e at 200 mg per week each I had low E2 symptoms.

If you are in a bind and there’s brand named hormones on Naps (e.g., Bayer) then no. I’d say either is an acceptable choice. I recently was able to try Andriol through them without having to be told oral undecanoate is unable to be obtained through my doctor. I ended up not caring for it, but...

The difference being…?

Naps is solid.

Truth.

One method that’s worked for me after learning my refill lesson the hard way is to have the doctor write the script for 1.5 to 2x the actual dosage I take.

Jokes aside, you’ll feel symptoms of low T. I’ve had the same thing happen with a couple of doctors. It is extremely aggravating.

Good case study. The only limitation, as with all self-reports, is accuracy of self report measures. What was the true extent of his AAS use? It is unlikely (actually, 99.9% sure) his AAS use adhered to TRT or even TRT+ dosages (200-250 mg weekly). This is, again, a case study wherein all AAS...

With results like this, it’s very unlikely that you ever truly shut down with TRT. Your HPGA is likely extremely resilient.

This is exactly how I’ve felt in the past using nandrolone. At about the 6-week mark, depression and lethargy were unbearable. Additionally, and this is something I do not hear many people post about, short-term memory deficits were extremely prevalent…almost to the point of feeling like an...

This is an excellent point. Agreed fully. Nandrolone’s potential neurotoxic effects are cited in the literature.

He’s also got steep upcharges on medications.