@Gman86 yea the soreness thing is totally beyond me. Honestly with my test / primo protocol I wouldnt get sore at all. Maybe just a little bit if I really pushed a workout - but nothing debilitating and for maybe a day tops.
My legs are STILL sore today
My labs from a week before stopping my last protocol had my e2 at 59 pg/ml - and that was at 80mg a week primo and 160mg TE.
So primo didn't seem to really kill my estrogen that badly.
Also my primo is an enanthate but that doesn't really matter much at this point.
My first week when I was...
From Defy Medical:
Testosterone Propionate
100 mg of Testosterone Propionate typically yields around 93 mg of Testosterone.
Testosterone Enanthate
NO INFO
Testosterone Cypionate
100 mg of Testosterone Cypionate typically yields around 68 mg of Testosterone.
Does anyone know what the relevant...
What form of citrulline are you guys taking? I take the Jarrows Arg/Cit blend and its 500mg of each per 2x of those massive pills. Those taking 2g+ per day must be taking handfulls of pills no?
I did one full week of no TE and only a tiny 40mg dose of Primo mid week as I was feeling totally exhausted thinking it might perk me up a little.
Then one full week on 180mg NPP and 600iu HCG
Then one full week on the protocol of 180mg NPP, 20mg TE and 600iu HCG split 3x weekly (the TE I did as...
Yea feel like my junk is like shrivvled right now.
Of every protocol I've ever tried I was the best I've felt was on Test + Primo + HCG (and Preg + DHEA sups).
Much like you I'm also worried about the hair. And also don't want to rely on UGL primo as part of just a HRT regimine either. Oddly...
Just an update:
First week where I took only NPP and HCG (waiting for the test to clear out) - I felt tired and lethargic all the time.
Week 2 I introduced test back into the mix. Not as tired or lethargic but still minimal motivation or drive. Way more muscle soreness after the gym for the...
I'm pretty much in the same boat as you. My urologist wouldnt even offer and of the surgical fixes claiming they dont do anything.
I've done 4 rounds of PRP and 3 rounds of botox injections along with almost daily pumping. It has helped but certainly has not fixed anything. I still require...
Not sure it's going to matter much - but my dr put in test C instead of E for me - so looks like it will be test C now for the foreseeable future since I have 20ml of it now. Slightly annoyed by that since on T base my libido was slightly better with the test E vs the test C but Im hoping since...
Today was my first dose of NPP.
I decided on doing 180mg NPP, 20 TE and 600iu HCG split 3x weekly.
My last dose of TE on previous protocol was 7 days ago so I am going to do ONLY NPP and HCG for the first week then add in the 20mg TE the following.
I'll update how I'm doing as the weeks come
Yea I'm debating totally stopping the preg/dhea and seeing how I am without it (since maybe with nandrolone I'll have the libido I don't on test?) but also don't want to stop and just not have a libido for like 4+ weeks while I'm trying to figure it out. So thats my dilemma.
I took my last shot...
I think I'm going to give this a try.
Going to use NPP so use a Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday injection schedule.
Thinking of doing the following:
50mg NPP per - 150mg total
10mg Test E per - 30mg total
300iu HCG per - 900iu Total
OR
200mg NPP total
(no test)
1200iu HCG total
Thoughts?
Also...
I'm also reading that DHN (or also lack of DHT) can have longterm sideffects of on the brain? Would that not making this a bad idea for HRT options?
Also with that being said... Could it be a good idea to add a DHT derivative into the mix like Primo or Mast? That way your body does still get...
Most clinics out in vegas are just generic TRT mills that want to get paid.
Your best bet is to just pick any, go ugl, or talk with your regular doctor / urologist and try and manage yourself. Alternatively theres also Defy (who i personally have not used) who is telemed but well regarded.
One thing I'm seeing that is concerning for me is the issues with heightened prolactin and lowered dopamine with Deca. But is that not an issue when being used in protocols like this then?
From what I can tell alot of the bad sideffects for both short and long term that I'm seeing talked about mostly on line are from dosing at 1:1 Test to Deca or 2:1 Test to Deca. Or just deca on its own. Not seeing alot of mention when used as a base with tiny amounts of test.
Anyone have...
So I am curious... Why is this not more mainstream? If anything it seems like this is a more efficient and effective way for therapy no? Just reading this alone makes me want to try it as well.
Attached are my current bloods.
I’m taking 140mg Test E (split into 2 shots biweekly) - 750iu HCG (also split into 2) - and 30mg Anavar Daily. Also 2mg Tesamorelin 5x days a week
Should I be concerned about the things out of range? I think my HDL was near the top of the range before taking the...
It's $900 where I am. Thats for 100u though (50 each side, only way they offer it).
I find that it is helpful but not a total fix. I also had a much better response the first time vs the 2nd time I had it done.
My ED is kinda a two fold issue though, I have a doppler diagnosed venus leak and...
It's been consistent which is a good sign. Not like any crazy big swings or ultra horny feelings but just a regular functional libido (which previously was nonexistant).
Just to update - after a few days the DHEA was too much, nipples were feeling really sensitive. Ended up dropping that for a little, and increased the Preg. Right now been taking 50mg Preg and 10mg DHEA for about 2 weeks now and have been feeling pretty good. Will update again.
Morning wood...
The actual drug name is Flibanserin.
It' my understanding on a short internet search is that this directly lowers serotonin and indirectly increases dopamine and norepinephrine?
Also only supposed to be taken by women - I'd assume maybe for liability reasons. Interesting.
I know this thread is ancient - but I figured this tidbit is better to have in this thread.
I just started taking 50mg DHEA and 25mg Preg a few days ago and it's given my libido and erection quality a skyrocket from being almost nonexistent previously. Hopefully this is something that sticks...
Would it not be better to keep the aromasin in a steady state with more regular dosing with lower doses? That way you'd keep your enzymes and E2 levels more consistent?
You see all sorts of combinations of Vard + APO, Vard + Tada, Vard + Oxytocin, etc etc etc.
I've seen Sild + Tada + APO + Oxy in troche form before.
Was kinda curious if anyone knew of a compounding pharmacy that makes this combo though and also what your guys thoughts are on it.
That size needle is for subcutaneous injections - which many would recommend over intra-muscular.
If you are following the 1ml/week then yes, you would do one full 0.5ml syringe each time.
It looks like you were prescribed a way overdosed cookie-cutter protocol though. (general sentient of...
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