400mg Injection of T - Switching to Defy

[Camposyka]

I'm attaching my blood-work from LabCorp before starting with Defy. My Urologist gave me a 400 mg shot of TEST 4 days before blood was drawn. I decided I needed to go with Defy after realizing that my Dr has no clue how to manage TRT. My previous total test was 85. I'm not sure how much the one shot will skew my test results. Hopefully the Dr's at Defy can sort through this mess.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Well, that explains the insane levels you posted in regard to testosterone and estradiol. There's little Defy hasn't seen, and I'm sure, given that you have pre-injection bloodwork, that this will not pose a challenge for them.

 

[Camposyka]

My pre-injection bloodwork was minimal at best.

PROLACTIN - 5.2 ng/mL Range 3.3 - 20.8
LH - 0.4 mIU/mL Range 1.7 - 11.2
FSH - 3.3 mIU/mL Range 1.9 - 19.9
TESTOSTERONE - 85 ng/dL Range 344 - 1,586

I started a thread in "INTRODUCTIONs" that had more of my history, but moved to this one to post bloodwork.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Why did you inject this amount when you were going with Defy? Or was this what caused you to make that decision?

 

[Camposyka]

This is why I contacted Defy. I know more now than I did then. I trusted my Dr. to know WTF he was doing.

 

[johndoesmith]

Not even steroid users inject 400mg at a time.

I'm actually kinda shocked at how low your level is relative to what you injected, but that's probably due to your low SHBG.

I wish you had more pre TRT blood work, as a testosterone level in the female range certainly deserves more investigation.

 

[Camposyka]

I did have an MRI to rule out a Pituitary tumor but unfortunately this was the only bloodwork prior to the shot.

 

[CoastWatcher]

I did have an MRI to rule out a Pituitary tumor but unfortunately this was the only bloodwork prior to the shot.

You deserve better care. You made a wise choice.

 

[Sakuraba39]

This ancient protocol is what the VA recommended to me when I was first diagnosed. Between that and the 20g needles they had me using it was bad time.

 

[Vince]

It's scary what some doctors do, we really have to be an advocate of our health.

 

[zorro]

Exactly what the urologist did to me - 400mg in one shot. For about 2 weeks after that, I felt horrible. Couldn't stop sweating, heart rate stayed around 100 constantly, etc. That's when I started educating myself and switched to Defy. Couldn't be happier now.

 

[Will Brink]

This ancient protocol is what the VA recommended to me when I was first diagnosed. Between that and the 20g needles they had me using it was bad time.

Hell, surprised the VA did anything at all.

 

[Sakuraba39]

Hell, surprised the VA did anything at all.

Will, it's always something with them. I've had at least 6 primaries since I've been under VA care, not to mention a dozen or so "specialists". I also had to see a couple of outside Drs. I cannot remember if I had the outside Doc initially write my T script of if it came from my first VA physician. Regardless, ever since he retired, it's been an adversarial relationship as most want me to discontinue T. I've had to get outside Dx, labs, notes, and Rx to submit to them and every now and then you have to file a complaint against someone to get them to leave you alone.

 

[akirez]

Not even steroid users inject 400mg at a time.

Some do. 750mg+ per week isn't unheard of. Some also frontload when starting a cycle so may inject something like 500mg at once.

 

[johndoesmith]

Some do. 750mg+ per week isn't unheard of. Some also frontload when starting a cycle so may inject something like 500mg at once.

Meh, I was exaggerating a bit. I was thinking of the common 500mg per week cycle with 250mg E3.5D. Honestly, most would go to other compounds at that point.

 

[Will Brink]

Some do. 750mg+ per week isn't unheard of. Some also frontload when starting a cycle so may inject something like 500mg at once.

Some bbers use over a 1g per week of T in addition to other AAS. Multi gram doses per week combined of T/AAS not unheard of.

 

[Will Brink]

Will, it's always something with them. I've had at least 6 primaries since I've been under VA care, not to mention a dozen or so "specialists". I also had to see a couple of outside Drs. I cannot remember if I had the outside Doc initially write my T script of if it came from my first VA physician. Regardless, ever since he retired, it's been an adversarial relationship as most want me to discontinue T. I've had to get outside Dx, labs, notes, and Rx to submit to them and every now and then you have to file a complaint against someone to get them to leave you alone.

Well, one of the things I'd like to do is have a niche working with mil retired and active duty to help in that area. It's bordering on medical negligence how they handle TRT/HRT and criminal they don't have all vets with spinal injuries tested and on TRT if needed via the VA's own statement:

“These findings confirm both a substantial population of men with SCI and with testosterone deficiency, and a significant association between testosterone level and severity of SCI. Measuring serum total testosterone levels should be included in standard screenings for patients with SCI…” - U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs SCI unit.

Cont:

Testosterone and spinal cord injuries

 

[Backpulse]

Yep! I know some local powerlifters using a total of 3000mg of gear a week. They get nose bleeds just handing off bench press to someone or tying their shoes.

 

[Sakuraba39]

Well, one of the things I'd like to do is have a niche working with mil retired and active duty to help in that area. It's bordering on medical negligence how they handle TRT/HRT and criminal they don't have all vets with spinal injuries tested and on TRT if needed via the VA's own statement:

“These findings confirm both a substantial population of men with SCI and with testosterone deficiency, and a significant association between testosterone level and severity of SCI. Measuring serum total testosterone levels should be included in standard screenings for patients with SCI…” - U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs SCI unit.

Cont:

Testosterone and spinal cord injuries

Well, I do have several different spinal issues, but I don't know too many former Infantry that don't. Throw a couple decades of lifting and grappling in there and it's difficult to tell what caused what.

 

[Will Brink]

Well, I do have several different spinal issues, but I don't know too many former Infantry that don't. Throw a couple decades of lifting and grappling in there and it's difficult to tell what caused what.

Have you had your IGF-1 tested? This thread will be of interest and possible value to you:

https://www.excelmale.com/forum/sho...eration-in-active-populations&highlight=IGF-1