Need some help

tjlab · Dec 9, 2016

I just got a call from doc and my test is too high. I had a blood draw this Monday am right before my next shot. I had changed my protocol to Monday am and Thursday pm...so that was my trough day. I am injecting 30iu twice weekly with a 27 gauge 1ml 1/2 cc syringe. By my calculations, the 30iu should be equivalent to 60mg or .3cc? My total T is over 1200 on trough day. Doc wants to lower. Am I doing something wrong? Only a week into protocol have no other tests. Thanks.

johndoesmith · Dec 9, 2016

tjlab said:
I just got a call from doc and my test is too high. I had a blood draw this Monday am right before my next shot. I had changed my protocol to Monday am and Thursday pm...so that was my trough day. I am injecting 30iu twice weekly with a 27 gauge 1ml 1/2 cc syringe. By my calculations, the 30iu should be equivalent to 60mg or .3cc? My total T is over 1200 on trough day. Doc wants to lower. Am I doing something wrong? Only a week into protocol have no other tests. Thanks.

Wait what? Your doctor order labs one week into your protocol? And wants to cut dose because it came back high?

I think your doctor is incompetent when it comes to TRT, as you're NOT shutdown yet, so you have endogenous + exogenous testosterone in you. This is making the levels higher than they will be in a few weeks when you're shutdown.

I'm confused, how did this even happen, he wanted a lab one week after starting?

tjlab · Dec 10, 2016

I have been on TRT for over a year. I just changed protocol and want to make sure I am not injecting more than I stated.

johndoesmith said:
Wait what? Your doctor order labs one week into your protocol? And wants to cut dose because it came back high?

I think your doctor is incompetent when it comes to TRT, as you're NOT shutdown yet, so you have endogenous + exogenous testosterone in you. This is making the levels higher than they will be in a few weeks when you're shutdown.

I'm confused, how did this even happen, he wanted a lab one week after starting?

johndoesmith · Dec 10, 2016

tjlab said:
I have been on TRT for over a year. I just changed protocol and want to make sure I am not injecting more than I stated.

Oh, that's a bit different but still it takes about 5-6 weeks for things to stabilize so testing 1 week into it is rather useless in terms of actionable information.

Hopefully I didn't come across as too rude or anything I was just taken back by the thought of a doctor testing 1 week into just starting TRT.

You're going to have to wait until week 5-6 for labs unfortunately.

tjlab · Dec 10, 2016

Really appreciate

Virginian · Dec 11, 2016

tjlab said:
I have been on TRT for over a year. I just changed protocol and want to make sure I am not injecting more than I stated.

What was your previous protocol?

Vettester Chris · Dec 11, 2016

Are taking HCG and/or anything else for your regiment?

tjlab · Dec 11, 2016

To respond to both of the above questions..I was on 120mg-130mg once weekly. No HCG. Trough was in 600's. E2 was fine. Hematocrit ok. Platelets fine. I think I may be over responding to the twice weekly dose of 60mg x 2.

Vettester Chris said:
Are taking HCG and/or anything else for your regiment?

Vince · Dec 11, 2016

tjlab said:
To respond to both of the above questions..I was on 120mg-130mg once weekly. No HCG. Trough was in 600's. E2 was fine. Hematocrit ok. Platelets fine. I think I may be over responding to the twice weekly dose of 60mg x 2.

60mg of T twice a week and no HCG is not a high dose, maybe you should retest in 6 weeks.

johndoesmith · Dec 11, 2016

tjlab said:
To respond to both of the above questions..I was on 120mg-130mg once weekly. No HCG. Trough was in 600's. E2 was fine. Hematocrit ok. Platelets fine. I think I may be over responding to the twice weekly dose of 60mg x 2.

Wait a second, you switched from "120-130mg"(why the variance?) once weekly, to 60mg twice weekly, correct?

So on 12/9/16 60mg injection, when was the last 120-130mg injection? What specific date?