Stopping Testosterone Injections for Enclomiphene

[DixieWrecked]

My pre trt bloodwork looked like this.

TT: 500
FT: 8.5
SHBG: 40
E2: 13

That was about 18 months ago and I got the bloodwork done at 4 pm. I'm 38. So really my numbers weren't horrible. I haven't felt very good on TRT except for some good gains in the gym. I haven't injected in about two weeks and started enclomiphene about 5 days ago. The reason I am doing this is because I believe if all i require is a small bump in my test then I think enclomiphene should do that more than easily. If I can cruise around at 1000 "naturally" why would I not do this? How bad is this withdrawal going to be before my levels get back up to normal?

I already feel anxious and low.

 

[txmx]

What is your enclomiphene protocol?

 

[DixieWrecked]

12.5mg ed. Its just for PCT but I told them I wanted to continue to take it if I was feeling good on it. Right now I feel like a bitch.

 

[lifeisgood]

Let us know how it goes. I've just started 12.5mg ED of Enclomiphene alone (no other TRT administered either recently or now). Hoping for good results.

 

[DixieWrecked]

Please keep us updated! Anything noteworthy or just your thoughts as it all unfolds.

 

[Vince]

I added this thread to my watchlist. I hope you have success in your Enclomiphene protocol.

 

[TLawyer]

12.5mg ed. Its just for PCT but I told them I wanted to continue to take it if I was feeling good on it. Right now I feel like a bitch.

I was on TRT for about 6 months and then decided to go cold turkey for about 9 weeks or so to see how I recovered. I was still low so decided to give daily Enclomiphene (12.5 mg) and Ibutamoren (12.5 mg) a try. It's been about 3 weeks on those, and although I don't have labs to confirm improvements, I definitely feel much better. More focused, better mood, better libido. Also taking daily 2.5 mg Tadalafil, which has me feeling 18 again.

 

[DixieWrecked]

@TLawyer That's great news! Very encouraging. Were you taking the Cialis with the injections as well? The thing that freaked me out was that when I started the T injections, the Cialis stopped working for me. Not sure the reason for that but obviously something is out of whack. That is basically the entire reason I am bailing on the injections. I hope to god being natural restores functionality. Freaking scary stuff.

 

[lifeisgood]

I was on TRT for about 6 months and then decided to go cold turkey for about 9 weeks or so to see how I recovered. I was still low so decided to give daily Enclomiphene (12.5 mg) and Ibutamoren (12.5 mg) a try. It's been about 3 weeks on those, and although I don't have labs to confirm improvements, I definitely feel much better. More focused, better mood, better libido. Also taking daily 2.5 mg Tadalafil, which has me feeling 18 again.

Nice to hear about the Enclomiphene. When do you dose it? Morning or evening/night?

How soon after you started did you feel it start kicking in?

 

[TLawyer]

@TLawyer That's great news! Very encouraging. Were you taking the Cialis with the injections as well? The thing that freaked me out was that when I started the T injections, the Cialis stopped working for me. Not sure the reason for that but obviously something is out of whack. That is basically the entire reason I am bailing on the injections. I hope to god being natural restores functionality. Freaking scary stuff.

I was taking Cialis, although only 1.25 mg per day. I noticed a slight difference at that level, but I seemed to be flushing very bad. I attributed it to the Cialis, although may have been my estrogen levels out of whack under the injections (along with HCG) as that has all stopped and I've even increased my dosage. Things are noticeably improved, although that may be just because of the increased dose.

 

[TLawyer]

Nice to hear about the Enclomiphene. When do you dose it? Morning or evening/night?

How soon after you started did you feel it start kicking in?

I take it every night before bed, along with the Ibutamoren. I started feeling it pretty quickly, some difference after probably a week (my testicles were noticeably larger almost immediately), which has been steadily improving. Tough to say whether it's the Enclomiphene or the Ibutamoren, although my IGF-1 numbers were already on the high end naturally, so probably the Enclomiphen. I don't feel like Superman, but I feel like my normal self before the Low T issues. It will be interesting to see my labs, which won't be for a few weeks.

 

[Willyt]

Interesting. Does Enclomiphene suppress natural production of testosterone like Cypionate does?

 

[DixieWrecked]

Interesting. Does Enclomiphene suppress natural production of testosterone like Cypionate does?

No. It makes your testicles produce more testosterone.

 

[DixieWrecked]

Man, TRT gave me ED but now two weeks after my last shot I have ED so bad its unreal. I am hoping to make it through this because this entire TRT thing has put a huge strain on my relationship. I actually just did bloodwork even though I'm only 5 doses in. I'm curious how fast the enclomiphene can get the the LH and FSH going.

 

[mqsymth]

I also added this thread to my watchlist. I hope you have success in your Enclomiphene protocol.

 

[Seth]

Man, TRT gave me ED but now two weeks after my last shot I have ED so bad its unreal. I am hoping to make it through this because this entire TRT thing has put a huge strain on my relationship. I actually just did bloodwork even though I'm only 5 doses in. I'm curious how fast the enclomiphene can get the the LH and FSH going.

Sorry to hear this man. Hope this works for you.

 

[sv1000]

My pre trt bloodwork looked like this.

TT: 500
FT: 8.5
SHBG: 40
E2: 13

That was about 18 months ago and I got the bloodwork done at 4 pm. I'm 38. So really my numbers weren't horrible. I haven't felt very good on TRT except for some good gains in the gym. I haven't injected in about two weeks and started enclomiphene about 5 days ago. The reason I am doing this is because I believe if all i require is a small bump in my test then I think enclomiphene should do that more than easily. If I can cruise around at 1000 "naturally" why would I not do this? How bad is this withdrawal going to be before my levels get back up to normal?

I already feel anxious and low.

I would use hCG for 3 weeks to bring up form and function to the testicles first. But that’s just an opinion. Look for Trt restart protocols

 

[T.O.firefighter]

No. It makes your testicles produce more testosterone.

Why aren’t more guys trying this over regular TRT injections? Excuse my ignorance. Thanks.

 

[sammmy]

For the same reason they are not trying the well known clomiphene to which enclomiphene is a version. Clomiphene does increase the testosterone and free testosterone but only as lab values. Since it blocks estrogen receptors and does god knows what else all over the body, the increased testosterone levels are typically not felt physically.

Personally, clomiphene just makes me hyper - gives endurance in the gym but can't fall asleep and do not feel cold in the winter. No effect felt on libido, orgasm, muscle mass, or body fat.

 

[LakeGuy81]

If enclomiphene potentially raise your T values, does it also raise red blood cell counts and HCT, etc like creams and injections?