When trt does not bring libido back or it worsens on trt.

tmckenzie · Oct 27, 2013

I actually have some on order. How long does it work and just how often can it be taken?

Gene Devine · Oct 27, 2013

tmckenzie said:
I actually have some on order. How long does it work and just how often can it be taken?

You will feel effects 4 hours after injection and it can last strong for 6 hours...for me I can feel it for a few days believe it or not.

Clint Lovelace · Oct 28, 2013

tmckenzie, i have not been following this thread all weekend, just caught up now. Seems we have the exact same issue. What is your TRT therapy now? I have been off of it for 3 months and was referred to an endocrinologist. The Endo said a T level of 309 was great and told me to basically leave. So now I have to start over, so I don't see my erection, desire, ability to cum and or orgasm being corrected anytime soon. I am surprised though that you are having morning erections, those have been gone for me for quite a while. Whole thing just frustrates me!!

Gene Devine · Oct 28, 2013

Clinit & tmckenzie -Can you guys post your latest blood work complete with ranges?

Clint Lovelace · Oct 28, 2013

I posted my results, without ranges, last week in my thread "seeing doc today". I am supposed to be getting the full lab report, that has the ranges, faxed to me today. When I do will post the full thing here.

Gene Devine · Oct 28, 2013

Clint Lovelace said:
I posted my results, without ranges, last week in my thread "seeing doc today". I am supposed to be getting the full lab report, that has the ranges, faxed to me today. When I do will post the full thing here.

Great, thank you!

tmckenzie · Oct 28, 2013

I posted mine too I thought. Everything was goood except prolactin, dht, e was 53 on stard assay, so I am back on an ai. Total t was 700 free was around 200, sgbh was16 which I think is too low.

Gene Devine · Oct 28, 2013

tmckenzie said:
I posted mine too I thought. Everything was goood except prolactin, dht, e was 53 on stard assay, so I am back on an ai. Total t was 700 free was around 200, sgbh was16 which I think is too low.

I remember.

I an getting threads mixed up here.

Refresh my memory, what were you doing about the elevated E2?

tmckenzie · Oct 28, 2013

I am on . 25 arimidex every three days. But I actually had began to feel better with it higher, with no ai.

Nelson Vergel · Oct 28, 2013

As testosterone blood levels go up, so does estradiol. Adolescent boys have a lot of testosterone AND estradiol. Some studies say that testosterone to estradiol ratios of 14-20 are best for fertility.

So, assuming someone's total testosterone is 1000 ng/dL, then a estradiol of 50-71 pg/mL (divide 1000 by 14 and 20) is to be expected. What causes gynecomastia is not having a high estradiol, but having a low testosterone-to-estradiol ratio.

That is why I am not in agreement with the use of anastrozole unless your T to E2 ratio is below 14.

I know this post will generate some discussion. I have read every single paper of E2 in men and I think this hype is nuts of treating E2 purely based on its value and not on how much testosterone we also have. Testosterone is the prohormone nature made to create estradiol and balancing the two is what matters.

Nelson

tmckenzie · Oct 28, 2013

Makes sense to me, one thing I noticed was my facial hair had began growing again. I really had not any high e symptoms. My t is probably higher, I was told not to take cream day of test. My dr wanted me I think in the 20s.

tmckenzie · Oct 28, 2013

Come to think of it, about the same time I started arimidex on a regular basis, with another dr, the level was 47 then, that is when my libido started downward. The shit is going in the garbage can I do believe.

tmckenzie · Oct 28, 2013

Nelson, I never read of t to e ranges. I looked on the site here but could not find it, any info more you could provide? I think I have been put on an ai when I do not need one and that has killed my libido.

tmckenzie · Oct 29, 2013

I started this thread for everybody in my shape, so all of you all jump on. I am told saliva cortisol testing is best,

Nelson Vergel · Oct 29, 2013

Writing an article soon as I am done with the references

Clint Lovelace · Oct 29, 2013

What happened to my posts with my results and ranges and comments after that?

Gene Devine · Oct 29, 2013

Clint Lovelace said:
What happened to my posts with my results and ranges and comments after that?

Clint, a new thread has been started so we can keep your case separate from the OP's thread.

You will see it here: https://www.excelmale.com/forum/threads/858-Blood-Analysis-Comments

Forum rules are forum rules...and it's a good thing.

GD