What ya think?

[j4ever]

ok guys here is my 6 week follow labs, this is a trough with me injecting once per week at this time, 150mg per week, i did not discuss with him what labs he was going to do, my reasoning might sound a little goofy but i wanted to see what labs he would run without me suggesting anything, i only spoke with him about moving to injecting twice a week, and he said it is up to me, at this time he wants me to start Anastazole 1mg once a week, wants me to take on the day i inject, overall feel good, i do feel some slight estro sides, i have only put on 6 pounds, i would say 2 pounds of that is water i don't need, the first 4 pounds just filled me out, i am pretty sensitive to estro manipulation, so that 1mg maybe to much, i just wonder how much estro would decrease with moving twice a week injects, i will be making a run to LabCorp in a few days.

[TABLE="class: table main-table"]
[TR]
[TD]TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL, MALES (ADULT), IA[/TD]
[TD]653[/TD]
[TD] 250-827 (ng/dL)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: table main-table"]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]PROTEIN, TOTAL[/TD]
[TD]6.8[/TD]
[TD] 6.1-8.1 (g/dL)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]ALBUMIN[/TD]
[TD]4.2[/TD]
[TD] 3.6-5.1 (g/dL)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]GLOBULIN[/TD]
[TD]2.6[/TD]
[TD] 1.9-3.7 (g/dL (calc))[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]ALBUMIN/GLOBULIN RATIO[/TD]
[TD]1.6[/TD]
[TD] 1.0-2.5 ((calc))[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]BILIRUBIN, TOTAL[/TD]
[TD]1.0[/TD]
[TD]0.2-1.2 (mg/dL)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]BILIRUBIN, DIRECT[/TD]
[TD]0.1[/TD]
[TD]< OR = 0.2 (mg/dL)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]BILIRUBIN, INDIRECT[/TD]
[TD]0.9[/TD]
[TD]0.2-1.2 (mg/dL (calc))[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE[/TD]
[TD]72[/TD]
[TD]40-115 (U/L)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]AST[/TD]
[TD]24[/TD]
[TD]10-35 (U/L)[/TD]
[TD]RGA[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]F[/TD]
[TD]ALT[/TD]
[TD]13[/TD]
[TD]9-46 (U/L)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: table main-table"]
[TR="class: bold"]
[TD="class: red"]ESTRADIOL[/TD]
[TD="class: red"]50 H[/TD]
[TD="class: red"]< OR = 39 (pg/mL)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="class: table main-table"]
[TR]
[TD]PSA, TOTAL[/TD]
[TD]1.1[/TD]
[TD] < OR = 4.0 (ng/mL)[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

 

[johndoesmith]

When were these labs drawn relative to injection?

You need the sensitive E2 test.

Sounds like you're doing mostly better, just a bit of highish E2. I wouldn't add in AI if this was me just yet. First off that's a standard E2 test so you're probably lower than that.

I honestly think that E3.5D could help you lower E2 enough to prevent AI. Adding in AI at your levels will probably be difficult to manage IMO.

Your doctor ordered a very limited set of tests. You need a CBC, CMP, free test, SENSITIVE E2, SHBG, maybe thyroid labs, and DHT.

i will be making a run to LabCorp in a few days

No. You need to wait about 5-6 weeks after making changes to get labs. Nothing will really change in a few days.

 

[Vince Carter]

1mg is a rather heavy dose and as noted you received the wrong test, you can assume* your E is actually lower 5-10 points than shown. I would not take that much Anastrozole, I'd start with .25mg day after your shot and see where you're at after a month. John is correct, whatever changes you make, need atleast 4 weeks to show themselves for testing.

 

[j4ever]

Labs were drawn on the morning of inject before inject, I meant that I was NOT going to change anything and get labs done in a few days, as mentioned the labs that he ordered are limited with the wrong e test, but I am thinking about going twice a week with sub q injects, but I want to get more labs on the protocol that I am on now, even if I stayed on once a week and did want to try an AI, 1mg I think to much for me, I would do as mentioned and start at .25mg

 

[johndoesmith]

Labs were drawn on the morning of inject before inject, I meant that I was NOT going to change anything and get labs done in a few days, as mentioned the labs that he ordered are limited with the wrong e test, but I am thinking about going twice a week with sub q injects, but I want to get more labs on the protocol that I am on now, even if I stayed on once a week and did want to try an AI, 1mg I think to much for me, I would do as mentioned and start at .25mg

Why would you want to take AI?

 

[j4ever]

i don't really want to take an AI, I am very sensitive AI's and a small dose goes a long way with me, I was just mentioning that if I was to continue once a week I will have to do something, I can tell you that I can feel my e is increased a bit, when my e is increased it always manifest itself in the same manner with me, slight bloat after I eat, nips a little puffy, right now this has brought back some old stuff from my past which is small hard lumps under nips ( this is intermittent ), I am not bloated or puffy in the face but I am a slightly puffy around eyes, all these things are only slight in nature and nothing crazy out of control, I would like to see the difference with sensitive test plus I want to get a couple of other labs as well before I change anything, would like to see how sub q twice a week would work, as you mentioned I would not get labs for a few weeks after starting a different protocol.

 

[johndoesmith]

i don't really want to take an AI, I am very sensitive AI's and a small dose goes a long way with me, I was just mentioning that if I was to continue once a week I will have to do something, I can tell you that I can feel my e is increased a bit, when my e is increased it always manifest itself in the same manner with me, slight bloat after I eat, nips a little puffy, right now this has brought back some old stuff from my past which is small hard lumps under nips ( this is intermittent ), I am not bloated or puffy in the face but I am a slightly puffy around eyes, all these things are only slight in nature and nothing crazy out of control, I would like to see the difference with sensitive test plus I want to get a couple of other labs as well before I change anything, would like to see how sub q twice a week would work, as you mentioned I would not get labs for a few weeks after starting a different protocol.

You certainly sound high E2, but your E2 isn't super high, and I do think it's possible a E3.5D protocol could lower E2 enough to allow you to avoid AI.

I personally think AI always complicates a protocol not to mention adding in another drug is always something we want to avoid if possible.

 

[j4ever]

You certainly sound high E2, but your E2 isn't super high, and I do think it's possible a E3.5D protocol could lower E2 enough to allow you to avoid AI.

I personally think AI always complicates a protocol not to mention adding in another drug is always something we want to avoid if possible.

i totally agree with you brotha, thanks guys!

 

[johndoesmith]

i totally agree with you brotha, thanks guys!
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Give it a shot(no pun intended) and see if it works. If you're growing breasts then stop the experiment and take AI.

 

[j4ever]

Give it a shot(no pun intended) and see if it works. If you're growing breasts then stop the experiment and take AI.

LOL, no doubt, I don't want to have the best pair of breast in my household, wifey would be pissed