"Urinary-derived hCG preparations are highly carcinogenic"

[BadassBlues]

In my 20 years of both researching and using HCG, I have never seen any evidence, or research that HCG causes cancer. The simple truth is that if this were true, we would have seen reports by now of widespread cancer rates from HCG. With the diet, fertility usage and men on TRT, HCG usage has skyrocketed over the past few decades.

As has been stated above, everything on this planet is carcinogenic to some degree. I'm sure there are specific subsections of people who should avoid it. But for the vast majority of us, I'm comfortable that we are in no imminent danger.

Stressing over things is detrimental to overall health. So if you are really worried about it, perhaps its best to avoid it.

 

[SeaDweller]

There's no other logical option to keep the balls in working order while on TRT for years on end correct?

I tried Kisspeptin 10 and found it to be completely useless. Also tried fadogia agrestis which did nothing.

 

[SeaDweller]

In my 20 years of both researching and using HCG, I have never seen any evidence, or research that HCG causes cancer. The simple truth is that if this were true, we would have seen reports by now of widespread cancer rates from HCG. With the diet, fertility usage and men on TRT, HCG usage has skyrocketed over the past few decades.

As has been stated above, everything on this planet is carcinogenic to some degree. I'm sure there are specific subsections of people who should avoid it. But for the vast majority of us, I'm comfortable that we are in no imminent danger.

Stressing over things is detrimental to overall health. So if you are really worried about it, perhaps its best to avoid it.

If there’s no studies done on that particular subset then you’ll never know.

My grandfather smoked a pack of cigarettes a day since his 20’s and lived to be 92. According to him, there was no imminent danger from cigarettes. My point is, there’s IS mounting evidence that HCG is potentially dangerous shyte. Everyone can draw their own conclusions about it. Personally, I’ve been there done that, got the video and the Tshirt. It’s not worth the risk just to walk around with a set of heavy balls.

 

[albert88]

Imagine the lawsuits...

 

[BadassBlues]

If there’s no studies done on that particular subset then you’ll never know.

My grandfather smoked a pack of cigarettes a day since his 20’s and lived to be 92. According to him, there was no imminent danger from cigarettes. My point is, there’s IS mounting evidence that HCG is potentially dangerous shyte. Everyone can draw their own conclusions about it. Personally, I’ve been there done that, got the video and the Tshirt. It’s not worth the risk just to walk around with a set of heavy balls.

With respect… comparing cigarette smoking to HCG is just a bit of a stretch here don’t you think? Years of factual studies and real life situations have proven there is a direct correlation between smoking and a plethora of health problems. There is no such evidence with HCG. Just a random one off. Please show this “mounting evidence” you reference besides this one.

HCG is much more than just “heavy balls” amigo, do your homework on LH receptors.

Seriously Bro, not trying to be disrespectful, but this much to do about nothing.

As I stated though, if it’s causing you stress, than by all means avoid it.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

So, when a woman is pregnant, she can produce over 400,000 IU of hCG. However, pregnant women are not known to have an increased cancer risk. Women who have had several babies do not have a higher incidence of cancer.
Urinary hCG was actually used to treat specific cancer in AIDS called KS.

Human chorionic gonadotropin inhibits Kaposi's sarcoma associated angiogenesis, matrix metalloprotease activity, and tumor growth - PubMed

Kaposi's sarcoma is a highly angiogenic, AIDS-associated neoplasm that is more frequent in male than in female patients. Cases of spontaneous regression during pregnancy have been reported and the pregnancy hormone human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) has shown anti-Kaposi's sarcoma activity in...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Does HCG Cause Cancer? High HCG Blood Levels Are Linked to Cancer

I've read studies that show that HCG is a marker for cancer. These studies say the only time HCG is elevated in males is when they have cancer. They say that many cancerous tumors make HCG. There are many positive traits about HCG that I like and seem healthy. It does seem a little worrisome to...

www.excelmale.com

 

[SeaDweller]

With respect… comparing cigarette smoking to HCG is just a bit of a stretch here don’t you think? Years of factual studies and real life situations have proven there is a direct correlation between smoking and a plethora of health problems. There is no such evidence with HCG. Just a random one off. Please show this “mounting evidence” you reference besides this one.

HCG is much more than just “heavy balls” amigo, do your homework on LH receptors.

Seriously Bro, not trying to be disrespectful, but this much to do about nothing.

As I stated though, if it’s causing you stress, than by all means avoid it.

The studies are posted on this thread and my posts from 2021. If that information isn’t enough to question the safety of HCG then that’s on you. Your entitled to your own conclusions brother. I’m well aware of the benefits that HCG provides for some dudes. Personally, I never found it to be that spectacular for anything other than alleviating discomfort from atrophy.

Was there a correlation between my cancer and years of HCG use? Dunno. Would I have used HCG had I known the potential cancer risk? Absolutely not. That’s my perspective. Maybe my experience and information will help someone else…or not. It’s much to do about nothing until you’re getting blasted with radiation and chemo. Make of it what you will.

Good luck.

 

[albert88]

The studies are posted on this thread and my posts from 2021. If that information isn’t enough to question the safety of HCG then that’s on you. Your entitled to your own conclusions brother. I’m well aware of the benefits that HCG provides for some dudes. Personally, I never found it to be that spectacular for anything other than alleviating discomfort from atrophy.

Was there a correlation between my cancer and years of HCG use? Dunno. Would I have used HCG had I known the potential cancer risk? Absolutely not. That’s my perspective. Maybe my experience and information will help someone else…or not. It’s much to do about nothing until you’re getting blasted with radiation and chemo. Make of it what you will.

Good luck.

I have to agree - if there were existing studies that it has potential cancer risks, and they knew, it should have been mentioned when making the decision.

Just like Semiglutide - my doc OK'd it for me, but after research I decided to not use it even if there's limited data that says there's a chance for cancer (in rats, mice, I don't care).

For now I'm holding off on ordering HCG...let's see if they shrink.

 

[tareload]

"Urinary-derived hCG preparations are highly carcinogenic"

Starting a new thread for better visibility. From Madman's post Illicit use of hCG in dietary programs and to promote anabolism: hCG variants as dangerous substances Research presented in this book clearly demonstrates and confirms that hCG variants, most notably hyperglycosylated hCG...

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Nice summary @testiculus. I will post a link to it again:

"Urinary-derived hCG preparations are highly carcinogenic"

Starting a new thread for better visibility. From Madman's post Illicit use of hCG in dietary programs and to promote anabolism: hCG variants as dangerous substances Research presented in this book clearly demonstrates and confirms that hCG variants, most notably hyperglycosylated hCG...

www.excelmale.com

 

[tareload]

According to him, there was no imminent danger from cigarettes.

In hindsight, there was no imminent danger to him . See the post I have on here dealing with cancer probability in smokers. Most people who smoke never die of cancer.

Is low dose nandrolone safe?

Is low dose (roughly 100mg a week or so) safe for long term health and longevity? I like it because I add lean gains and benefit from trt without the added androgens so less oily skin, less hair loss, prostate issues and of course the joint benefits, etc. Only studies I find are how bad...

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Ok this is my 2000th post. Maybe one day I'll have a "like" to "post count" ratio as good as @BigTex and @FunkOdyssey but for now I bow to their superiority. In my mind these two were the 2022 posters of the year.

As usual a bow to @Nelson Vergel , @madman , and the Man himself @Cataceous . Take care of yourself @Fortunate and good Brother @Belekas .

Peace out Brothers. Oh yeah, can't forget @Jerajera is a forum stud.

 

[Cataceous]

There's no other logical option to keep the balls in working order while on TRT for years on end correct?

There is, but I'm sure most would prefer the nebulous risks of hCG to being a human pin cushion. And who knows what issues might crop up with long-term SERM use.

 

[bixt]

Hi all, my apologies regarding Puretrig, I have emailed the manufacturer (see attached) and it is indeed uHCG and not rHCG as I previously erroneously stated.

 

[tareload]

Hi all, my apologies regarding Puretrig, I have emailed the manufacturer (see attached) and it is indeed uHCG and not rHCG as I previously erroneously stated.

Calling them a "manufacturer" seems like a stretch.

Why would they use postmenopausal women as urine source? Must be some funky u-hCG given the feedstock is very dilute in hCG.

WTHF?

https://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/p/pregnyl/pregnyl_pi.pdf

Actually it is pretty funny. Must be their scientifically adept way of telling the unsuspecting/ignorant customer that their "hCG" has no hCG in it LOL.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc066500

Elevated hCG can be a benign finding in perimenopausal and postmenopausal women

In a perimenopausal or postmenopausal woman, an elevation in human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) can raise the concern of malignancy or even pregnancy, but it can also be a benign physiologic finding due to production in the pituitary gland in this patient population. Diagnosing the underlying...

www.ccjm.org

I gotta get another hobby. Reading all this shit is depressing. Time to drop my SSRI dose again.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Step one for anyone concerned about cancer and their overall health is to avoid chronically elevated insulin. Insulin is extremely pro-cancer (which makes sense since insulin is very growth-promoting and cancer is partially un-constrained growth.) There are populations such as the well-studied Kitavans who do pro-cancer things like use tobacco but who do not have high rates of cancer, however they are living a very anti-cancer lifestyle in the rest of their actions (unknowingly of course.) The Metabolic Approach to Cancer by Dr. Nasha Winters is a good resource to start with for this and other interventions (e.g. minimize excess inflammation). We will never eliminate everything which could support cancers (especially since cancer cells do most of what normal cells do but at an accelerated rate) any more than we can avoid all germs, although we obviously want to avoid things which do not have a counter-benefit, but the most high-impact thing most people can do is stop doing pro-cancer things.

 

[bixt]

Must be their scientifically adept way of telling the unsuspecting/ignorant customer that their "hCG" has no hCG in it LOL.

Puretrig is pretty potent as I mentioned in another thread. My nuts do fill up, with "blue balls" feeling when using Puretrig after not using HCG for a while. So it's doing something. Haven't seen this with other UGL hcg brands. Also classic high E2 symptoms appear in the day of inject, made me dread the HCG inject day and I have stopped for a month for this reason. Will resume after a month.

You can have a look at their website company profile, it is indeed a legit India pharma brand. Also click products -> pharmaceutical -> ferticare to see their fertility range.

Welcome to Gufic Group

 

[tareload]

Puretrig is pretty potent as I mentioned in another thread. My nuts do fill up, with "blue balls" feeling when using Puretrig after not using HCG for a while. So it's doing something. Haven't seen this with other UGL hcg brands. Also classic high E2 symptoms appear in the day of inject, made me dread the HCG inject day and I have stopped for a month for this reason. Will resume after a month.

You can have a look at their website company profile, it is indeed a legit India pharma brand. Also click products -> pharmaceutical -> ferticare to see their fertility range.

Welcome to Gufic Group

Well then check with the dude you emailed what he's talking about...why does he mention post-menopausal women as the urine source? Make no sense to feed their manufacturing process a very dilute source of hCG.

 

[bixt]

Well then check with the dude you emailed what he's talking about...why does he mention post-menopausal women as the urine source? Make no sense to feed their manufacturing process a very dilute source of hCG.

He probably confused hCG with HMG. I will email him.