Testosterone Levels Too High?

[Ateam2024]

i was on 300 mg test c weekly, tt was 2089, i bumped my dose down to @180 mg weekly about three months ago but my tt is still in the 1700 range, how long will it take to get to the 1100 range ? do i have to just cut my weekly dose in half for a few weeks?

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Well that’s just it. At .10 it didn’t make any difference at all. .15 slightly better but felt kinda moody. Then .20 feel Incredible…so based on how I felt the lower doses I didn’t feel great.

Ok, I agree with madman that unfortunately it takes longer than most people are willing to wait to give a dosage a fair shot. There was a good swirl-o-gram from 5 years or so ago that captured the general timeframes for TRT symptoms to improve but unfortunately I don't have it. Perhaps it is searchable. To answer your original question, high-blood pressure would absolutely be a problem if you were to develop that, so you need to check it frequently and keep your potassium and salt up, as well as focus on cardio and HIIT no mater what. The second issue, while somewhat rare, is that in some people the neurotransmitters which control libido seem to "reset" to need a higher level of T in order to have healthy libido. For example, there was a poster here several years ago who ran doses (IIRC) in the 3-500mg range for a while, and when he went back to 150ish he lost his libido. I've seen this reported elsewhere also but I've never seen decent data on how common this is. Unfortunately he never gave an update, but that seems like a major risk one would not want to take lightly.

 

[madman]

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[madman]

i was on 300 mg test c weekly, tt was 2089, i bumped my dose down to @180 mg weekly about three months ago but my tt is still in the 1700 range, how long will it take to get to the 1100 range ? do i have to just cut my weekly dose in half for a few weeks?

How many days post-injection before you had blood drawn?

We always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) before your next injection.

When using TC/TE any time you increase or decrease your dose hormones will being flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized 4-6 weeks.

You will need to decrease your dose further and wait another 4-6 weeks to achieve steady-state before getting bloodwork done.

The more you decrease your dose the bigger impact it will have on driving down your TT/FT.

Would not do too big of a jump when cutting your dose as it is much harder coming down than going up.

Common to experience ups/downs along the way and even then once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) it will still take the body a few more months to adapt to its new set-point.

 

[Ateam2024]

How many days post-injection before you had blood drawn?

We always want to test at the true trough (lowest point) before your next injection.

When using TC/TE any time you increase or decrease your dose hormones will being flux during the weeks leading up until blood levels have stabilized 4-6 weeks.

You will need to decrease your dose further and wait another 4-6 weeks to achieve steady-state before getting bloodwork done.

The more you decrease your dose the bigger impact it will have on driving down your TT/FT.

Would not do too big of a jump when cutting your dose as it is much harder coming down than going up.

Common to experience ups/downs along the way and even then once blood levels have stabilized (4-6 weeks) it will still take the body a few more months to adapt to its new set-point.

thanks man i don't really have a trough per say as i take my t m-w-f and tested before my planned injection so i guess i was at "my trough" so i will just back off a little for a couple weeks i guess

 

[madman]

thanks man i don't really have a trough per say as i take my t m-w-f and tested before my planned injection so i guess i was at "my trough" so i will just back off a little for a couple weeks i guess

Your true trough when injecting 3X/week (M/W/F) would be Monday before your next injection which would be 72 hrs post-injection.

Yes you can also test Wednesday or Friday (48 hrs post-injection) but you need to make sure every time you tweak your T dose on such protocol that you need to pick the same time (48 or 72 hrs post-injection) so you can see the change/where your TT, FT sit when comparing previous blood work.

 

[Ateam2024]

Your true trough when injecting 3X/week (M/W/F) would be Monday before your next injection which would be 72 hrs post-injection.

Yes you can also test Wednesday or Friday (48 hrs post-injection) but you need to make sure every time you tweak your T dose on such protocol that you need to pick the same time (48 or 72 hrs post-injection) so you can see the change/where your TT, FT sit when comparing previous blood work.

thankyou brother

 

[Bob62]

I’ve been on TRT for 8 months. Started out at .10 per day and then they increased to .15 per day and then to .20 per day.

My T levels increased moderately at first from
250 total to 500 total. I don’t have the data on free initial T handy. At 500 total I was at 74 free. Then it went up to 1400 total and 300 free. Then from there it went up again to 2772 total and 723 free.

I feel absolutely great. No heart palpitations, no mood swings, no aggression no issues to speak of at all. Get Morning wood every day like I’m 17.

One thing I’ve noticed is that I do have some muscle issues and joint pain - Possibly related? Not sure.

The question is with these numbers so far out of what “they” consider normal -

From my experience with cream those levels arent anything special . i get comparable on 50 mg cream scrotal a day. Back when testing wasnt a thing tbh i was probably years on that level . Early 50 age group and i felt great on that for maybe ten years went from slob to running full marathons and no health issues .
Like you my free T was between 1-3% of total and my total T to E ratio was usually about 30 so favourable level.
When i started doing labs regularly and being serious i did cut my test back to 25 mg cream daily. Only real chage for the better i would say is i was less " brittle " on the lower dose , but my ranges tbh are still way over refererence.
i did some read around on the subject and my takeaway was i prob have low AR sensitivity ( there are a huge number of AR polymorphisms) and hence my Hct never got above .48 .
Just adjust your dose to something less controversial but do pay close attention to how you feel. Also keep estrogen to keep a decent T:E ratio. I assume your on HCG btw +/- preg