Test ok but free T is low

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Hi all. After four years on trt to hunt for a libido I came off cold turkey. 9 months off and test and lh and fsh have bounced back . Free t is still low. Would it be worth jumping back on trt low dose to try and up the free t . S shbg is high and have been taking boron so one of the reasons why my free t is low.

Would pinning test p boost the free t hoping for a libido ?

These are the results after 9 months off trt
 

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T is important for libido but there are other supplements. I do not attribute great sex to T, T is more for energy, muscle retention and youthfulness. If you need a real boost, call a urologist and get a RX for Trimix, a simple painless shot in the penis will provide a hard stiff member for an hour or so depending on the dose. If motivation is the issue, get some black maca, red korean ginseng, tribulous and l'arginine. take all daily and your desire will peak.
 
T is important for libido but there are other supplements. I do not attribute great sex to T, T is more for energy, muscle retention and youthfulness. If you need a real boost, call a urologist and get a RX for Trimix, a simple painless shot in the penis will provide a hard stiff member for an hour or so depending on the dose. If motivation is the issue, get some black maca, red korean ginseng, tribulous and l'arginine. take all daily and your desire will peak.
Thanks I've tried maca l arginine and tribulous and did nothing for me.... Surely if I can get me free t up that would help
 
Typically the only way you can see SHBG come down, at all, is high singular high doses of Test. Like E3.5d if not once per week. No other way to raise T if it's all bound up with SHBG.
 
S shbg is high and have been taking boron so one of the reasons why my free t is low.
High SHBG doesn’t lower FT. High SHBG and low FT are two separate issues. There’s men with high SHBG and high FT.


Total Testosterone LC/MS: 1,238 H (250-1100) high
Free Testosterone Equilibrium Dialysis: 195.6 H (35-155) high
LH: 5.4 (1.5-9.3)
FSH: 5.3 (1.6-8)
SHBG: 65 H (10-50) high
 
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High SHBG doesn’t lower FT. High SHBG and low FT are two separate issues. There’s men with high SHBG and high FT.

What .... I've read on here and been told that the shbg uses the free t. So many people have said if I lower my shbg the free t will raise .. so this is all false... How can I raise my free t levels.. ?
 
Typically the only way you can see SHBG come down, at all, is high singular high doses of Test. Like E3.5d if not once per week. No other way to raise T if it's all bound up with SHBG.
Going off the next comment below . Shbg doesn't have an impact on free t .. I'm lost soooo lost
 
What .... I've read on here and been told that the shbg uses the free t.
Sorry, you've been mislead. When you go on TRT, you're injecting FT which typically lowers the SHBG.

So declining FT can have effects of increasing SHBG.

Here's a scenario, a bodybuilder starves himself to get ripped, which lowers T and the improvements in insulin sensitivity which raises the SHBG.

You can't then blame the high SHBG for the declining FT in this case.
How can I raise my free t levels.. ?
Increases in LH, response to LH via the testicles and FT increases. Your FT is low because your testes aren't producing enough FT.

SHBG does have a transient effect on FT, but it's temporary. A potted plant is dried up, poor water (FT) on it and the soil (SHBG) becomes fully saturated after a certain point and the spillover, the water or FT is free to flow where it needs to go while the remainder is bound to the soil or SHBG.

Once the SHBG is fully saturated, FT recovers.
 
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Throw large amounts of androgens at the high SHBG.
Thanks so much for that .. U r right when I was on trt my shbg was lower... Now I'm off it the shbg is higher
What I don't get is... When I was in trt my LH was zero. Now I'm off trt my LH has bounced back but still low free t ...

So basically start the trt again. Flood the system
 
What .... I've read on here and been told that the shbg uses the free t. So many people have said if I lower my shbg the free t will raise .. so this is all false... How can I raise my free t levels.. ?

Hmm. If you take that free t calculator, put your numbers in but half the shbg, the free t value goes up, so......
 
I dunno, for fun?
I was showing that what you hoped you'd get by adjusting shbg in a free t calculator would give you the increase in free t number you were after. And that although in reality it's more complicated than that, it's one reason why people claim lowering shbg gives increased free t. That was all. Good luck.
 
Well I'll just pretend my free t is high n then don't need the calculator lol

Lol, maybe. Have you ever tried tongkat ali? Just my personal experience here, but i find it significantly increases my libido (unfortunately for me though, it also seems to cause the rheumatism in my thumb joints to flare up so i've had to stop taking it) It's also supposed to lower shbg if that's what you're after, and skimming through this study that's theorised as the way it increases libido etc

 
@nippy Just looking at one of your older posts, you mentioned you've always had low e2 -

"My last E2 result was march 23 and it was 57 pmol. Thats with me pinning so shows my E2 is always low . Don't know how I can boost my E2... If my blood comes back and my free t is low I'm going back on test P just need this E2 up"

Is that still the case now? I'd be looking at that before chasing more free t. E2 can have a huge influence on libido. Have you ever tried supplementing DHEA? That (might) bump your e2 up if low. It would certainly be a safer (and more legal) trial than the dbol recommended to you in the thread that quote above came from. However it works, i find DHEA also keeps my libido up, and is possibly the reason why my own e2 usually runs quite high (last bloods 184 pmol/l)
 
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@nippy Just looking at one of your older posts, you mentioned you've always had low e2 -

"My last E2 result was march 23 and it was 57 pmol. Thats with me pinning so shows my E2 is always low . Don't know how I can boost my E2... If my blood comes back and my free t is low I'm going back on test P just need this E2 up"

Is that still the case now? I'd be looking at that before chasing more free t. E2 can have a huge influence on libido. Have you ever tried supplementing DHEA? That (might) bump your e2 up if low. It would certainly be a safer (and more legal) trial than the dbol recommended to you in the thread that quote above came from. However it works, i find DHEA also keeps my libido up, and is possibly the reason why my own e2 usually runs quite high (last bloods 184 pmol/l)
Yes still low. Always has been even on trt.. so how much dhea do you take? It's tablet? Yes also tried T Ali and I think everything else they all recommend
 
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