Still no further forward on trt

[whiting1986]

Hi guys it's me again and unfortunately I still can't figure out what the hell is going on with me.

My previous thread explains a lot of my situation which a lot of you wonderful guys commented on so thanks for that.

I am taking 50mg a week split into x2 Monday and Thursday.

I still have terrible side effects of brain fog, anxiety, mental ans physical fatigue, sometimes disorientated like off balance.

I don't know what else to think. Could it be the test that I am using meaning test cyp I'm injecting in belly fat?

Out of the 6 months last week was very positive in terms of feeling better then i did a. Work out some running then on the stairway it all started again.

So so confusing

I will puy my blood results below

 

[Belekas]

Well you need to work on getting those levels back in range, stay there, see how you feel and then reassess. Why is your Vitamin B so high? Just to double check, you are taking 50mg/week split into 2 injections and still get such high levels?

 

[whiting1986]

My levels are in range that's the problem. And yeah I am on 50mg split into 2 Injections a week.

I had a vit b12 injection to see if that would help as I was on the low end off the scale.

 

[Belekas]

How are all those red lines in range when they clearly show out of range or im missing something here?

 

[whiting1986]

I thought you ment my T levels sorry.

My cholesterol has always been on the high side. But that wouldn't be giving me these side effects.

My doctor said to just keep an eye on them and not to be worried by them. If they where right above the range then yeah but there not.

 

[Belekas]

Progesterone 2x range and your Hematocrit and Heamoglobin above above range as well, RBC high too. Get those under control and in good range and then see how you feel. Don't listen to those who say they matter not. Take it into your own hands and do the work required. The blood test I like should have no red lines, but thats my opinion, and I'm a nobody. Also I'd look into cholesterol as well but its up to you.

 

[whiting1986]

I have since getting my HCT and hemoglobin in range.

My ferritin is back on the low side.

Anyways thanks for tour input maybe someone else can jump in aswell

 

[Systemlord]

Whenever you see a man on TRT with normal levels and very high hematocrit, if it can’t be explained by sleep apnea, or dehydration, then you’re very sensitive to Test and therefore may not need high normal levels to relieve symptoms of low-T.

Also, don’t fall into a false sense of security with hematocrit and hemoglobin in the normal range and the lower end ferritin, you can be iron deficient with normal hemoglobin.

It’s clear to me you need to significantly reduced your TRT dosage and you may need to start taking iron supplements.

Your doctor is dropping the ball!

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Ordinarily I would say to look into Adrenal Dominance, but Progesterone counters adrenalin so with very high progesterone perhaps it's causing the opposite of adrenal dominance. I agree that a lower T dose is worth experimenting with.

 

[whiting1986]

Ordinarily I would say to look into Adrenal Dominance, but Progesterone counters adrenalin so with very high progesterone perhaps it's causing the opposite of adrenal dominance. I agree that a lower T dose is worth experimenting with.

 

[whiting1986]

Thanks for your Input.

You mean go even lower than 50mg a week?

 

[whiting1986]

Whenever you see a man on TRT with normal levels and very high hematocrit, if it can’t be explained by sleep apnea, or dehydration, then you’re very sensitive to Test and therefore may not need high normal levels to relieve symptoms of low-T.

Also, don’t fall into a false sense of security with hematocrit and hemoglobin in the normal range and the lower end ferritin, you can be iron deficient with normal hemoglobin.

It’s clear to me you need to significantly reduced your TRT dosage and you may need to start taking iron supplements.

Your doctor is dropping the ball!

 

[whiting1986]

You mean drop it even lower than 50mg a week ?

 

[Systemlord]

You mean drop it even lower than 50mg a week ?

That’s a bit drastic, 70 mg weekly. So 35 mg twice weekly.

 

[whiting1986]

No I am on 50mg a week

So 25mg on a Monday and 25mg on a Thursday.

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Thanks for your Input.

You mean go even lower than 50mg a week?

Sorry. I thought you were on 50mg twice per week. You can try lower, but that would be fairly unusual. You might want to get a full work-up from a good holistic practitioner specifically looking for some sort of infection. Your symptoms sound like an infection could be a the root of your issues.

 

[whiting1986]

Sorry. I thought you were on 50mg twice per week. You can try lower, but that would be fairly unusual. You might want to get a full work-up from a good holistic practitioner specifically looking for some sort of infection. Your symptoms sound like an infection could be a the root of your issues.

 

[whiting1986]

Thanks for your response
What do you mean by infection ? Could it be something to do with the test cyp I am.using ?

Sorry for all the questions I am just trying to get to the bottom if it

 

[Willyt]

Why did you make a second post? Sounds like you are using lots of supplements. If so, there are too many variables in play. Dial in your T levels first and then worry about the rest

 

[Guided_by_Voices]

Thanks for your response
What do you mean by infection ? Could it be something to do with the test cyp I am.using ?

Sorry for all the questions I am just trying to get to the bottom if it

Your symptoms sound like things I have heard described in interviews where the person had some sort of low-level infection (like Lyme and various others) that was dormant in some situations but not in others. The T may only be an indirect factor. Micronutrient issues could also be at play. Without a full work-up it's very hard to say but it seems unlikely that T is the only factor or even the major factor.