SARMs Control Act of 2018

[Esq]

Earlier this week, Senators Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI) introduced the SARMs Control Act of 2018. If passed and signed by the President, the Act would amend the Controlled Substances Act to list SARMs as Schedule III controlled substances, meaning they would be regulated by the DEA the same as anabolic steroids.
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https://www.govtrack.us/congress/bi..._feed&utm_source=govtrack/feed&utm_medium=rss
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https://www.hatch.senate.gov/public...islation-to-empower-dea-s-regulation-of-sarms
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The Act defines "SARM" as "any drug or other substance that is a selective androgen receptor agonist chemically unrelated to tesosterone, estrogens, progestins, corticosteroids, and dehydroepiandrosterone . . ." Specifically scheduled (but not an exclusive list if the substance otherwise fits the definitions) are ostarine, LGD-4033 (ligandrol), RAD-140, andarine, and several other common SARMs products.
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I do not see MK-677 (ibutamoren/nutrobal) listed, and while it isn't techinically a SARM, it is often sold by the same "research chem" places that sell LGD and the like. I wonder whether MK could fit under the Act's catchall definition SARMs not otherwised listed, which states that a substance shall be considered a SARM if it:
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(I) has been created or manufactured with the intent of producing a drug or other substance that—
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(aa) promotes muscle growth; or
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(bb) otherwise causes a pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone; or
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(II) has been, or is intended to be, marketed or otherwise promoted in any manner suggesting that consuming the drug or other substance will promote muscle growth or any other pharmacological effect similar to that of testosterone.

 

[Rhino 2.0]

Hopefully it gets passed. On the other hand I heard sarms do not cause suppression of the Hpta like steroids do. I have also heard that they do cause suppression. Anybody know for sure if they do or not? Also has anybody on here even tried a sarm before?

 

[Esq]

Hopefully it gets passed. On the other hand I heard sarms do not cause suppression of the Hpta like steroids do. I have also heard that they do cause suppression. Anybody know for sure if they do or not? Also has anybody on here even tried a sarm before?

I dabbled with LGD before I got on TRT - definitely suppressive but not a complete shutdown for most people. I think some other regulars around here have tried LGD and ostarine. Of course, if you're on TRT, you don't have to worry about suppression (though there are other possible side effects to be concerned about).

 

[Rhino 2.0]

What are the other sides besides suppression? and are they even worth taking ? (meaning do you keep you’re gains after you come off)

 

[looyvillelarry]

Clearly, this is where the DEA needs to spend time instead of the opioid epidemic. smh

 

[Vitamin_C]

I've ran SARMS plenty of times, no side effects for me and I'm on TRT so I don't have to worry about suppression. This is just another worthless witch hunt, same with banning Ephedra and 1,3 Dimethyl

 

[Vince Carter]

Certainly rooted within big pharma's lobbying arm because they're not making any money from SARMS. That's the only thing going on with that proposed legislation.

 

[Pauly_P]

Yes, more regulation, that's what we need. Soon, your creatine and protein will be regulated.

 

[JMP]

The wording of the bill seems like it would eliminate any supplement that says it causes muscle growth....no? Don't these guys have anything better to do?

 

[madman]

What are the other sides besides suppression? and are they even worth taking ? (meaning do you keep you're gains after you come off)

In phase I and II trials first generation SARMs showed significant reductions in hdl cholesterol and shbg concentrations.

Along with mild transient elevations AST/ALT.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2907129/

 

[madman]

Shalender Bhasin is mentioned in this New York Times articles and is highly respected in the field of endocrinology and research regarding testosterone/aas/SARMs and has published numerous studies in the vast amounts of literature regarding hormones/effects. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/12/...g-weight-lifting-pill-supplements-safety.html

 

[Mountain Man]

Certainly rooted within big pharma's lobbying arm because they're not making any money from SARMS. That's the only thing going on with that proposed legislation.

No doubt big Pharma is lobbying Congress to make up for lost revenue know that everyone is on to the way they oversold opioids. The fear based nonsense is absolutely insane.

Funny how the “less government” guys seem to be in the pocket of the pharmaceutical lobby.

 

[looyvillelarry]

The wording of the bill seems like it would eliminate any supplement that says it causes muscle growth....no? Don't these guys have anything better to do?

This is the part that is really kind of scary. It basically allows the DEA to schedule at will. Whey can cause muscle growth