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[Ramrod]

How much should I be started on with levels this low?

He said something along the lines of
100 every 2 weeks. Then if that didn't get it. He would try 100 every week... Then every 10 days. Seems like I would be wasting 6 more weeks here. Or is that something insurance has to have?

 

[CoastWatcher]

How much should I be started on with levels this low?

He said something along the lines of
100 every 2 weeks. Then if that didn't get it. He would try 100 every week... Then every 10 days. Seems like I would be wasting 6 more weeks here. Or is that something insurance has to have?

You are dealing with a doctor who is, simply put, a fool. One hundred milligrams every two weeks will never work, not for you or anyone else. The half-life of testosterone is such that by the end of the two week period you will feel miserable. Your system will have metabolized the injected testosterone and you will be in a hypogonadal state again. Current, successful protocols call for injections two to three times a week. Smaller, multiple doses have shown - over and over again - to be the key to success. Fifty milligrams every 3.5 days is an excellent starting point.

 

[Vince]

I agree with Coast, 100mg of T every 2 weeks will give you low testosterone. I would say a 100mg a week is bare minimum. I started with 70mg of t and 500iu of HCG every 3 1/2 days.

 

[CoastWatcher]

How much should I be started on with levels this low?

He said something along the lines of
100 every 2 weeks. Then if that didn't get it. He would try 100 every week... Then every 10 days. Seems like I would be wasting 6 more weeks here. Or is that something insurance has to have?

There are good doctors, not nearly as many as there should be, not by a long shot, but this physician isn't one of them. I can't speak to your financial situation, but if you have the resources you should find the a capable doctor and consider it an investment in your life. Settling for a poorly designed protocol, one designed to fail, because an insurance company will pay for it is not a wise idea.

 

[Ramrod]

Ok I misunderstood what he said. Just got my 2nd set of labs and T was even lower. So he started me on 1cc every 2 weeks, but said I can do 1/2cc a week. Then in 5-6 weeks take new labs and adjust if needed.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Ok I misunderstood what he said. Just got my 2nd set of labs and T was even lower. So he started me on 1cc every 2 weeks, but said I can do 1/2cc a week. Then in 5-6 weeks take new labs and adjust if needed.

In milligrams, what is your protocol now?

 

[ERO]

Once a week is at least doable from a more modern TRT standpoint. Twice a week would be a lot better, but baby steps with this Doc.

 

[Ramrod]

In milligrams, what is your protocol now?

200mg every 2 weeks.

Once a week is at least doable from a more modern TRT standpoint. Twice a week would be a lot better, but baby steps with this Doc.

Are 22g 1.5in syringes the norm?

 

[ERO]

Almost all of us use Insulin syringes between 27 and 29 gauge. 22 gauge 1.5" is like getting shot in the ass in comparison.

 

[Ramrod]

Does a 27g 1in work find for the glutes and shoulders?

 

[ERO]

Yes, it works great. It will be SubQ or semi-SubQ depending upon body fat %, but it works the same either way. FAR less painful than that 22 gauge 1.5" as well. oh, and the insulin syringes are typically 1/2" to 5/8" long - no need for longer.

 

[Nelson Vergel]

I agree with ERO. That is what I use.

 

[Ramrod]

Well I took my first dose. I only took .5cc 100mg instead of the 200mg for the 2 weeks. I'm afraid if I go 14 days between I will be even lower then when I started.

My question is now. Since he wanted me to do 200mg every 14 days.
He also said to do my blood test the day of my injection but before I do it. Should I cont. at 100mg a week? or should I what he suggested first? or do the 100mg weekly till 2 weeks before blood test and take a 20mg dose then. So it's only dealing with lows once instead of between every injection..

Just to note. I asked if I can do the 100mg weekly and he said that's fine, but it's not needed.

 

[CoastWatcher]

Well I took my first dose. I only took .5cc 100mg instead of the 200mg for the 2 weeks. I'm afraid if I go 14 days between I will be even lower then when I started.

My question is now. Since he wanted me to do 200mg every 14 days.
He also said to do my blood test the day of my injection but before I do it. Should I cont. at 100mg a week? or should I what he suggested first? or do the 100mg weekly till 2 weeks before blood test and take a 20mg dose then. So it's only dealing with lows once instead of between every injection..

Just to note. I asked if I can do the 100mg weekly and he said that's fine, but it's not needed.

Some suggestions.

Rather than a single dose of 100mg per week, you might consider 50mg every 3.5 days. The vast majority of us men here at ExcelMale who have achieved success use a protocol calling for multiple, smaller injections over the course of a week. Fifty milligrams - twice weekly - is a good, rational starting point. If you choose to adopt this schedule it would mean injecting on, say, Tuesday morning and Friday night. Blood could be pulled on Friday morning prior to that evening's shot.

There are good, sound reasons for following such a schedule: you minimize peaks and valleys, it may well eliminate the need to utilize an AI to control estradiol, you have sound reasons to hope for solid levels well in a therapeutic range.