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Hello,
It's Doctor O. He gives his patients 1 bottle a month (writes the script at 500mg's a week but tells us to take 200mg's a week). I was hitting 1440 Total T level at 160 so I cut it down to 120 and didn't tell him. He also prescribes 1 box of HCG a month so I have a ton of it stockpiled.

If any doctor would prescribe a patient 500mg/week of testosterone he/she should loose their license to practice.
 
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And to clarify.....I'm LOL'ing because I have been thinking the same thing for the past 4 years. My wife constantly asks, "How is he still practicing" when he prescribes so much....and deca to boot at 500mg's a month.

I tell her the same thing. This guy is very well know in the TRT circles but nobody questions it so.........
 
That dosage is way too high. Sounds like a dosage an ex juicehead would prescribe. Also, what kind of idiot doctor would prescribe arimidex without even waiting for you to get blood results after at least 6 weeks of being on T. Is he a fortune teller ??
200 mgs is a steroid cycle, not replacement.


If you are talking about strictly a test only cycle than 250-500mg/week would be considered as a steroid cycle, dosage with 250mg/week being a low dose cycle. As far as 200mg/week blatantly saying that dose is a steroid cycle is careless on your part.

Sure 200mg/week would put many peoples testosterone levels well above the physiological range and into the supra-physiological range but there are people on trt whether due to sensitivity of the AR receptor, shbg levels that need higher doses of testosterone such as 200mg/week in order to attain higher physiological levels (high/normal) range in order to reap the benefits of trt and notice improvements in low t symptoms/overall well being.

Understand that trt is not a one size fits all as every individual is different in how they respond to testosterone/dosage- due to genetics/ones body chemistry/underlying health issues hence wide variations in patients protocols.
 
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LOL, ask Nelson about Dr. O. He's extremely well know in the world of TRT and is considered a pioneer.

Regarding trt no one needs 500mg/week of testosterone unless the sole purpose was for increasing muscle mass/strength, LMFAO!
 
Regarding trt no one needs 500mg/week of testosterone unless the sole purpose was for increasing muscle mass/strength, LMFAO!

You're right. That's why most of his patients stockpile their test. He prescribes it solely to give his patients one full bottle a month but he tells us to shoot 200mgs (and even that might be too much). He prescribed me 200mg's of test and 200mg's of deca once he diagnosed me (and wrote the script at 500mg's/mo so I could get a full bottle of both). I knew better and started at 100 and didn't fill the deca (scared of deca ****).

Now, I'm betting some patients are running a full cycle but.........
 
On this forum so many people inject very frequently, as do I. 200/wk with just a single injection seems to put most guys around 900 TT at trough give or take from what I’ve read. If trough is all you care about it works out just fine. That’s the standard protocol with lots of doctors.

These doses are all very debateable. Everybody responds differently. I keep my T on the higher end maybe just past physiological levels, and it works well for me. Blood tests agree. I don’t really agree that muscle mass is the only reason one might take higher doses. More T makes me feel better given e2 in check.

Based on experience only i’d Have started at 80mg 2x/wk if I did it all over again. I doubt I’d jump head first into daily injections. That dose would have probably put me where I may or may not need an ai. Starting out on a dose that requires a significant amount of ai I think is generally going to go poorly.

Thank you!
 
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And second, just about every "idiot" Dr that frequent this forum prescribe Anastrozole so there's more igorance on your part. I get that you want to sound smart here but it's not working.
I believe he said to START out on, which if I am not mistaken, is a crappy protocol as noted around here. Weren't we taught it wasn't a good idea to start out on an AI until your first set of labs after starting were complete to see if you even need it?

If any doctor would prescribe a patient 500mg/week of testosterone he/she should loose their license to practice.
I can confirm this as people on other boards were boasting about this. I think its because he is primarily an HIV specialist and gets away with such a high prescription because of muscle wasting on his patients. Correct me if I'm wrong Nel?
 
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