I need help getting dialed in

[Sb32]

Just giving an update. I stopped taking arimidex and it’s been a roller coaster after rebounding. My new protocol is 66mg test cyp shallow IM MWF and 25mcg liothyronine daily. Starting to feel a lot better and like my old self. The bigger doses of test really make me feel better than the smaller ones. Maybe because my shbg is on the higher side? I’m 14 days in, and will get labs drawn in 4 weeks

 

[Sb32]

Alright guys, 17 days since I quit arimidex. Body is still adjusting, some days are hard, some days are good. Just had two of the most mind blowing orgasms i’ve ever had. Back to business. Will post labs in a few more weeks

 

[lionmanone]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

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[Finao]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

I am not a physician! I would recommend dropping the HCG and the Arimidex. 50mg of Testosterone is not likely to elevate your estrogen, which presumably why you were started on HCG & Arimidex.(not to mention the additional revenue for dispensing the HCG) Blocking estrogen is likely to affect your libido. You need estrogen for sexual function, heart health. Furthermore, HCG may impact Testosterone level complicating management. If you do not plan on having children, which is why one is prescribed HCG, to preserve Testicular function. I would drop it.

 

[Hammer]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

I agree with the response from Gladiator! I was just at my docs who is very knowledgeable about hormone therapy. he said he won't prescribe any AI's if E2 is under 60 or if gyno symptoms are present.

 

[Hammer]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

 

[Hammer]

You might want to address your mental state and depression with an anti-depressant . Did you discuss this with your doc?

 

[jodahl6898]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

I will never take HCG. That messed me up.
50mg a week is too low. Go to 100mg, 3 times a week subq.

 

[cegranger]

I’m on 25mcg liothyronine daily. My free t3 is 4.3 pg/ml. My reverse t3 sits high at 27.9 ng/dl. My free t4 sits at 1.17 ng/dl.

Are you on T3 only and have a high Reverse T3? That doesn’t make sense.

 

[tnap]

50-60mg zinc for estrogen management

Is taking that much Zinc daily dangerous? My E2 is a little high

 

[AJB1975]

I felt like shit on AI, dropped it and now feel way better.

T only is the way man.

 

[Sergel]

Sometimes adding things does not help... we need to go back to basics and remove stuff.

First, your test is way too high... at 1500, man I feel bat shit crazy on that high of a T for too long... ask me how I know! And no shit you aromatize, man at that level of T any one aromatizes a lot... lol Kick the extra stuff... hcg and ai, and dial in your T, then you can start adding stuff if you want to experiment...

Bring your T to a physiological level, you will feel normal again... lol Try lowering your T to 100-125mg per week and see how you feel... give it time, like 6 weeks... get blood tests. Aim at normal free T and physiological total T ... that is how your body expects it...

You are better off restarting at a lower dose, give it time to reset and go from there. Adding more stuff over your already crazy protocol will do nothing but screw you up more... With T, we always fail to realize that less is more...

 

[Sb32]

Is taking that much Zinc daily dangerous? My E2 is a little high

I’m not taking it daily. Just when I feel like I need it

 

[Jay Ara]

@Sb32 , I hope you are keep feeling better!

Less is more in the end, take sometime to get yourself dialed in, as many recommended reduce the amount of compounds and reduce the dose.

I'm on Nebido every 10 weeks only, "equivalent" to 100mg per week and I feel great! No AI, no HCG, I know everyone is different, but just for your reference.

What I do recommend on top of TRT is to watch your diet and regular exercises, I'm in caloric deficit at the moment because I want to lose some weight.

TRT is no magic, but allows you to do things you could not do it before when you were low.

Good luck bro!
Jay

 

[hefab]

I’m 35 year old man. I’ve been on TRT for a few years. I’ve tried everything and I can’t get dialed in. I need help! I’m currently on 50mg of testosterone cyp, 250iu of hcg, and 0.125mg arimidex every other day. I have no libido currently. I feel fine mentally. When I stop taking an AI, my libido is good and strong, but i’m a mess mentally. I can’t figure it out! Help me please

I recommend tadalafil, alfuzosin and cabergoline.

 

[hefab]

You need to have some good urologist who will prescribe it

 

[Sb32]

Day 21.. I feel terrible. I’ve had bad sleep all week, weak orgasms again, soft erections, fatigue, and not motivated to do anything. I think my estrogen is too high. Going to get labs done tomorrow and take some AI and lower dose to 132mg a week. 66mg twice a week. I’m so sick of this up and down and back and forth. I can’t figure this out. Maybe it’s my prolactin??

 

[sammmy]

Standard dose injectable T is 100mg/week or lower, divided in several doses. You were overdosing T, then adding HCG on top of that, and wondering why your estrogens are high, and need to take AI.

TRT is about taking the lowest possible dose that will give you physiological range, not a trough at the top of the normal range.

 

[Sb32]

Just an update. I toughed it out, and didn’t take an AI i’m so glad I didn’t. It’s Day 24 now and things have kind of starting to balance out. I’m dropping my dose to 50mg eod and going to sit on 175mg a week. I’ve been reading a lot on this forums and started taking p5p and my god did it to wonders to my mental health. I feel so energetic and young and like my own self again. I’m thinking high prolactin was the culprit all along. I lowered my zinc dose to just a multivitamin and am taking p5p 50mg and magnesium 600mg. I will try boron after the holidays since my shbg is on the higher side.

 

[Systemlord]

I’m so sick of this up and down and back and forth.

I’m dropping my dose to 50mg eod

Apparently you’re just fine with this up and down mary go round.