What dose and where were you applying? How many times a day?My DHT is 5x the reference range max and I developed acne. I use compounded cream every morning and the dose put me at 500-900 when measured 2 hours after application.
What dose and where were you applying? How many times a day?
I recently posted my labs on a somewhat modest dose on the scrotum. Labs were crazy out of whack.
Lots of people have gone from cream to injections and vice versa.
I've since switched to applying on the insides of my arms and rubbing it on my sides. My thinking is it's hairless so there will be less conversion to DHT.
Not really. If I apply it to my arms in the morning, I get dressed, go to work and I'm covered. My understanding is that transference is unlikely beyond several hours.Do you have any concerns of transference to others when applying to you arms and side?
I started out with the gel stuff but that didn’t raise my numbers very much went to injecting about 5 yrs ago numbers are all good nowMy DHT is 5x the reference range max and I developed acne. I use compounded cream every morning and the dose put me at 500-900 when measured 2 hours after application.
I hated needles but worked through my fear and I do weekly injections now with no issuesThose that switch from cream to injections seem to be guys that don't absorb cream well. It appears that you absorb it well. So do I. In fact, I am trying cream again right now. My issue is figuring out a way to not absorb too much.
There are various reasons why a guy may switch from injections to cream. Some guys hate needles. Others suspect they react to something in the injection (oil, preservative, excipient). Some guys use add a little cream along with a primary injection protocol to bump up their DHT (for improved libido).
I applied gel for 15 years to shoulders a and arms, DHT mid range T up near max, I suspect its the scrotum application and maybe inner thighs that jacks up the DHT , defo the scrotumInsides of thighs and elbows, and a bit on the scrotum. One click every morning, plus one click 3 nights a wk. 50 mL per click of 20% cream.
This gets total T in the 600-900 range tested 2 hours after morning application.
I've since switched to applying on the insides of my arms and rubbing it on my sides. My thinking is it's hairless so there will be less conversion to DHT.
What were the reasons folks switched from cream to injections and vice versa?
yes, I injct 40mg/week cyp with daily subq, I also apply testogel 9am, 2pm 7,pm to give me the equivelent of 70mg per week of injectable. Its a very unusual regime but the only one I can get to work so farstill use gel?
Interesting to see the injectable base + cream in action.yes, I injct 40mg/week cyp with daily subq, I also apply testogel 9am, 2pm 7,pm to give me the equivelent of 70mg per week of injectable. Its a very unusual regime but the only one I can get to work so far
So, to be clear, you are or are not using cream?I personally don't recommend creams unless you are having an issue dumping blood all the time from injections or if libido is completely shot. Creams don't produce nearly as stable T levels as injection shots and that was probably the toughest part for me but over time I just got use to it, also creams brought my libido up big time.
As someone already mentioned and you are already doing applying on the inner arms, biceps controls DHT by a lot you probably don't get as much T as scrotal application but just add another click on arms if that's the case.
I'm on creamSo, to be clear, you are or are not using cream?
You really should wait 4 hours after application at least, to have labs measure if you want to measure a peak. It takes longer than 2 hours for complete absorption. Your labs may be considerably higher for Total and free T than you thought.My DHT is 5x the reference range max and I developed acne. I use compounded cream every morning and the dose put me at 500-900 when measured 2 hours after application.
That’s a hotly debated topic.Surely the fact it's raises dht so abnormally high won't be good in the long term ?