I have some purely anecdotal but, in my opinion, interesting observations I’ve made while on Xyosted for the last few months. I pulled labs a few times and compared them to levels I achieved while on other forms of TRT, such as cream and standard enanthate. The results are somewhat surprising.@Cataceous I have a huge amount of respect for you as well. You can debate and give your opinion without making any personal attacks.
Xyosted, while they have contributed to research, has been developed and sold in UG markets for a few years now. They have not created magic. Again, this industry is still in it infancy. We need to get doctors and patients to quit paying so much attention to statistics/numbers and pay more attention to how they feel and how the rest of their blood works looks. Again, it makes no sense to me that medical science lowered the testosterone bar instead of keeping the norms the same and finding out why the averages have dropped, then treat them.
Dr. Crisler has certainly been pushing sub-q injections since just before 2012. He got the idea from Dr. Eugene Shippen who has advocated sub-q injection long before that. Quite a few of us knew sub-q injections were safe and just as effective long before there was research telling us it was. Blood test pretty well proved that. I know i have been doing sub-q since possibly 2012. All I needed was Dr. Crisler's word. Medical science told us only IM injections would work.
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I agree that TE is a good option for some and most probable me. However, it up to doctors to write them and insurance companies to fork over the money to cover it. Mine doesn't seem to want to cover test cyp. Xyosted, with GoodRX is $477 at Walgreen for 4 auto injects of 75mg each. In mu humble book, that is damn expensive. TU should be made available for guys like me that want to use it sub-q. I agree with you 100% that all of these products had a place. Again, we all react differently and a patient being able to stick with a prescription is pretty important. The only reason Xyosted can be made with no BA/BB is because it comes in 4 preloaded auto injects. Other wise the chance of it getting bacteria in it would be kind of risky with a 10ml vial. But it is still just testosterone enanthate.
At some point, I believe @Cataceous postulated that the lack of alcohol made a difference in the pharmacokinetics. Having compared my lab values, I do think that the lack of alcohol and other additives makes a significant difference.
I haven’t been around here much lately. When I have a few minutes, I’ll post my Xyosted labs and observations.
