Even doctors have problems getting TRT

[Will Brink]

People are often surprised that even some docs have trouble getting treated. A buddy if mine is a GP at a large mucky muck big name clinic. He'd been having classic low T symptoms. The clinic he works at covers his costs in house, so understandably he wanted to use the resources there.

He made an app with the urologist for testing. I gave him a list of tests to ask the doc to run, and warned him to not be surprised if the doc was less than helpful or well versed in TRT.

The doc refused to run anything but TT and FT. Red flag number one.

Results came back at TT under 400ng/dl and FT 13pg/ml so low "normal" and symptomatic. I don't know what E2, FSH, LH, etc are as he refused to run those.

Doc says no reason to treat and he should "suck it up."

That's one doctor talking to another doctor...

So, he will have to go outside his own network and clinic to get treated, and pay out of pocket likely via me. So, don't feel bad if you experience the same thing, it even happens to docs!

Will @ www.BrinkZone.com

 

[CoastWatcher]

I've heard these sort of stories, first time one has come in that's essentially first-hand. How absurd.

 

[Vince]

tell him to join the crowd!

 

[Systemlord]

Defeats the purpose of becoming a doctor to help people only to turn away a fellow doctor presenting symptoms in the low normal range, awful!

 

[user_joe]

It's simple ignorance. Really nothing more to it.

Medicine is constantly progressing. I work in IT which changes probably even faster. The difference is I'm unemployable if I don't keep up. People blindly pick doctors and assume they are qualified. Seems most stopped learning decades ago.

 

[Jomer]

will brink your a doctor? I never knew that.

 

[Will Brink]

will brink your a doctor? I never knew that.

Nope, not a doctor, just a scientist. Will make more sense if you see:

http://www.brinkzone.com/general-health/brinkzone-teams-up-with-amc/

 

[FOX1]

People are often surprised that even some docs have trouble getting treated. A buddy if mine is a GP at a large mucky muck big name clinic. He'd been having classic low T symptoms. The clinic he works at covers his costs in house, so understandably he wanted to use the resources there.

He made an app with the urologist for testing. I gave him a list of tests to ask the doc to run, and warned him to not be surprised if the doc was less than helpful or well versed in TRT.

The doc refused to run anything but TT and FT. Red flag number one.

Results came back at TT under 400ng/dl and FT 13pg/ml so low "normal" and symptomatic. I don't know what E2, FSH, LH, etc are as he refused to run those.

Doc says no reason to treat and he should "suck it up."

That's one doctor talking to another doctor...

So, he will have to go outside his own network and clinic to get treated, and pay out of pocket likely via me. So, don't feel bad if you experience the same thing, it even happens to docs!

Will @ www.BrinkZone.com

What are your guidelines in USA?

In UK, "Normal Testosterone levels" are 8nmol/L to 27.4 nmol/L

this equals 230ng/dl to 790 ng/dl

in UK you need to be a good bit below 230ng/dl or indeed your Free Testosterone has to be way off, UK measurements are recorded in nmol/L

 

[Will Brink]

What are your guidelines in USA?

In UK, "Normal Testosterone levels" are 8nmol/L to 27.4 nmol/L

this equals 230ng/dl to 790 ng/dl

in UK you need to be a good bit below 230ng/dl or indeed your Free Testosterone has to be way off, UK measurements are recorded in nmol/L

Different major labs in the US have different ranges, but recent FDA pressure has them getting more standardized among them. You can find the lab ranges on this forum. In the US, smart docs realize low "normal" T/FT makes most men feel like dirt, and will treat based on symptomology and labs, vs most, which tend to treat just based on labs. Those doctors (per OP for example) should be avoided and offer sub par care generally due to ignorance. Life in the low "normal" range for many hormones sucks, especially T/FT.

 

[FOX1]

Different major labs in the US have different ranges, but recent FDA pressure has them getting more standardized among them. You can find the lab ranges on this forum. In the US, smart docs realize low "normal" T/FT makes most men feel like dirt, and will treat based on symptomology and labs, vs most, which tend to treat just based on labs. Those doctors (per OP for example) should be avoided and offer sub par care generally due to ignorance. Life in the low "normal" range for many hormones sucks, especially T/FT.

Just found and read your T/FT ranges for you guys in US, you guys have it lucky compared to folks in UK, but then again in all cases, money talks, (if you go private)

 

[Will Brink]

Just found and read your T/FT ranges for you guys in US, you guys have it lucky compared to folks in UK, but then again in all cases, money talks, (if you go private)

As challenging as it can be to get quality TRT/HRT in the states, it seems in that area, we are well ahead of the curve from everything people tell me about the UK, Canada, etc.