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MarkM
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I stopped taking Flaxseed because, of my understanding, it is high in estrogenic properties.
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Vince
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I believe the greatest benefit of using high dose fish oil is by improving the LDL particles, it lowers the small dense particles and and helps increase them to nice fluffy one.
Tommy Wall
Member
In theory it should be a good supplement and I used it as well. Reg statins I´m also confused about its effectivness to prevent card diseases. I mean the vast majority of docs and specialists to prescribe statins and I can´t imagine that they are only pill pusher. If the evidens showing that statins are to no use or only little were more convincing would statins still be prescribed? Of coarse it must be very hard for a doc to admit that he has been wrong about prescribing something that wasn´t to any help.
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
This is what I take:
At breakfast:
Vitamin D 5,000 IU (bones, several metabolic processes)
L-Acetyl-Carnitine 2000 mg (energy, cognitive)
Coenzyme Q10- 400 mg (heart protection, energy)
Zinc/copper 30/3 mg (hair, skin, estradiol management)
NAC 600 mg (best glutathione precursor)
600 mg Alpha GPC Choline (cognitive)
With Coffee: 1 teaspoon of creatine monohydrate (strength, pump at gym)
At dinner:
B-100 complex (many metabolic processes)
NAC 600 mg (glutathione)
1 hour before bedtime: chew on 2 mg of melatonin (sleep)
At breakfast:
Vitamin D 5,000 IU (bones, several metabolic processes)
L-Acetyl-Carnitine 2000 mg (energy, cognitive)
Coenzyme Q10- 400 mg (heart protection, energy)
Zinc/copper 30/3 mg (hair, skin, estradiol management)
NAC 600 mg (best glutathione precursor)
600 mg Alpha GPC Choline (cognitive)
With Coffee: 1 teaspoon of creatine monohydrate (strength, pump at gym)
At dinner:
B-100 complex (many metabolic processes)
NAC 600 mg (glutathione)
1 hour before bedtime: chew on 2 mg of melatonin (sleep)
Vince
Super Moderator
I've never taken a multi, yes I take most in pill form except for the N.O. stack.
Tommy Wall
Member
Isn´t Choline & Inositol a good combination? I just started taking them.
Tommy Wall
Member
Alpha-GPC gave man (79) uncontrollable libido
From the report:
"Case Report
An otherwise healthy 79-year-old man came to our clinic for memory loss. Neurological examination, hematochemical tests, including blood cell count, coagulation, autoimmunity markers, thyroid hormones, homocysteine, vitamins and folate and brain CT were within the normal range. Neuropsychological evaluation showed an isolated deficit in short term memory with no functional impact on daily activity: the Mini-mental State Examination (MMSE) showed a 28/30 score. Thus, MCI diagnosis was supposed and oral choline supplementation (i.e., choline alphoscerate, a precursor of the phosphatidylcholine) was prescribed at a dosage of 1200 mg/day.
After 6 weeks of regular choline ingestion, the patient showed a significant increase in libido with sexual urges, even in inappropriate places. His wife, a healthy 70-year-old woman, said that her husband had unexpectedly changed his sexual behavior: they usually had regular sexual intercourse no more than once a month, but, in the last weeks, he wanted to engage her in sexual activity at least three times a day and often asked her for oral sex.
Moreover, the patient was very annoyed and nervous when his wife refused sexual contacts; thus, he started masturbating “to alleviate his psychological discomfort.”
Interestingly, while on choline, the patient and his wife reported a significant improvement in erectile function. Because of this abnormal sexual behavior, choline was withdrawn and hypersexuality receded after about 5 days.
Before choline discontinuation, the patient’s sex hormone levels, including total (7 ng/ml) and free testosterone (0.14 ng/ml), were within the normal range. Intriguingly, since the patient was “proud” of his sexual potency while on choline, he spontaneously and secretively ingested oral choline for about another month with a consequent hypersexuality.
The patient resumed his “normal” sexual behavior after complete withdrawal of choline intake.
Choline is the precursor of acetylcholine, a parasympathetic neurotransmitter that facilitates genital blood flow engorgement: this peripheral mechanism of action may partially explain the patient’s improvement in erectile function. Nevertheless, it is also known that citicholine, a choline-derivate, helps the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine, which is directly involved in increasing libido (Agut, Ortiz, & Wurtman, 2000).
Interestingly, choline may be converted in trimethylglicyne (TMG) and dimethylglycine (DMG), which may be considered as “libido boosters” since they are involved, as methyl donors, in the metabolism of various hormones and neurotransmitters implicated in mood and sexual pleasure. Thus, this complex centrally-acting mechanism might play a key role in inducing hypersexuality in predisposed individuals. Indeed, as it becomes evident that single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in humans can create metabolic inefficiencies (Zeisel, 2011), it is possible that SNPs genes involved in acetylcholine (and/or other neurotransmitters) metabolism may have altered our patient’s choline response. Moreover, since testosterone levels were normal while the patient was on choline, a possible role of this sexual hormone in inducing the hypersexual behavior may be ruled out.
In conclusion, as hypersexuality may be an underreported and overlooked adverse effect of drugs and dietary supplements acting on the cholinergic and aminergic pathways in predisposed individuals, this should be considered when treating and counseling older patients with inappropriate sexual behaviors."
From the report:
"Case Report
An otherwise healthy 79-year-old man came to our clinic for memory loss. Neurological examination, hematochemical tests, including blood cell count, coagulation, autoimmunity markers, thyroid hormones, homocysteine, vitamins and folate and brain CT were within the normal range. Neuropsychological evaluation showed an isolated deficit in short term memory with no functional impact on daily activity: the Mini-mental State Examination (MMSE) showed a 28/30 score. Thus, MCI diagnosis was supposed and oral choline supplementation (i.e., choline alphoscerate, a precursor of the phosphatidylcholine) was prescribed at a dosage of 1200 mg/day.
After 6 weeks of regular choline ingestion, the patient showed a significant increase in libido with sexual urges, even in inappropriate places. His wife, a healthy 70-year-old woman, said that her husband had unexpectedly changed his sexual behavior: they usually had regular sexual intercourse no more than once a month, but, in the last weeks, he wanted to engage her in sexual activity at least three times a day and often asked her for oral sex.
Moreover, the patient was very annoyed and nervous when his wife refused sexual contacts; thus, he started masturbating “to alleviate his psychological discomfort.”
Interestingly, while on choline, the patient and his wife reported a significant improvement in erectile function. Because of this abnormal sexual behavior, choline was withdrawn and hypersexuality receded after about 5 days.
Before choline discontinuation, the patient’s sex hormone levels, including total (7 ng/ml) and free testosterone (0.14 ng/ml), were within the normal range. Intriguingly, since the patient was “proud” of his sexual potency while on choline, he spontaneously and secretively ingested oral choline for about another month with a consequent hypersexuality.
The patient resumed his “normal” sexual behavior after complete withdrawal of choline intake.
Choline is the precursor of acetylcholine, a parasympathetic neurotransmitter that facilitates genital blood flow engorgement: this peripheral mechanism of action may partially explain the patient’s improvement in erectile function. Nevertheless, it is also known that citicholine, a choline-derivate, helps the release of the neurotransmitter dopamine, which is directly involved in increasing libido (Agut, Ortiz, & Wurtman, 2000).
Interestingly, choline may be converted in trimethylglicyne (TMG) and dimethylglycine (DMG), which may be considered as “libido boosters” since they are involved, as methyl donors, in the metabolism of various hormones and neurotransmitters implicated in mood and sexual pleasure. Thus, this complex centrally-acting mechanism might play a key role in inducing hypersexuality in predisposed individuals. Indeed, as it becomes evident that single nucleotide polymorphisms (SNPs) in humans can create metabolic inefficiencies (Zeisel, 2011), it is possible that SNPs genes involved in acetylcholine (and/or other neurotransmitters) metabolism may have altered our patient’s choline response. Moreover, since testosterone levels were normal while the patient was on choline, a possible role of this sexual hormone in inducing the hypersexual behavior may be ruled out.
In conclusion, as hypersexuality may be an underreported and overlooked adverse effect of drugs and dietary supplements acting on the cholinergic and aminergic pathways in predisposed individuals, this should be considered when treating and counseling older patients with inappropriate sexual behaviors."
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Vince Carter
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Report back when you start taking it
Tommy Wall
Member
lol just got it today
DragonBits
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Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
Ummm....interesting! I may also be experiencing libido increase but not uncontrollable (I am 60)
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
Nelson Vergel
Founder, ExcelMale.com
"Choline is the precursor of acetylcholine, a parasympathetic neurotransmitter that facilitates genital blood flow engorgement: this peripheral mechanism of action may partially explain the patient’s improvement in erectile function. "
No wonder my testicles feel even fuller now.
No wonder my testicles feel even fuller now.
DragonBits
Well-Known Member
Vince, I know you do low carb, but estimate how many carbs you eat?
If I add one more supplement to my list, food will have leave the top of the list of ingredients and thus become a supplement.
Vince
Super Moderator
My estimate would be 15 carbs per meal, I minus fiber from my total carbs. If I eat something with 20 carbs and10 grams of fiber that equals a total of 10 carbs.
Maximus220rr
Member
Nelson what is your protocol these days? 75mg of test and 500ius of hcg every 3.5 days? No ai?
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