Daily Low Dose T cyp/prop results

[Deleted member 16042]

Have you ever tried just daily test cyp without the test prop? If so, how was it compared to doing the test cyp with the test prop?

Yes, but I have not been on daily T cyp at this low a dose. I am afraid I don't remember how much I was taking daily of just T cyp, but it was in the range of 10-12mg/day That put me supraphysiological on TT and moderately above normal range free T. I had E2 symptoms and water retention. At that time I went back to E2D and felt better.

I noticed less water retention soon after adding prop and reducing dose further. The daily fluctuation makes me feel a bit more in tune with daily circadian rhythm in terms of energy. On just cyp, I feel more even, but a bit duller throughout the day.

 

[Deleted member 16042]

Latest on 6.8mg/daily, 3.8/3 ratio of enanthate/proprionate by weight.

Previous 7mg/daily 4/3 ratio.

HCG 200iu EOD, DHEA 25mg, Pregnenlone 50mg unchanged

Total T is fine with me, but Free T took more of hit than I wanted.The ratio looks about on par with the SHBG shift. Of course trying to parse this out with accuracy could just be lost in the noise of lab error, daily swing from the prop, and everything else going on physiologically. The ester ratio may be in part responsible.

I am glad to see the SHBG, it was severely elevated for a long time due to transfusional iron overload'affect on the liver. Iron levels are back in good normal territory and Ferriritn maintaining in the mid 100's despite ongoing phlebotomies. Having discussed with all, while there is still the possibility, none of my doctors nor I believe at this point that the ongoing HCT issue is testosterone driven. I have managed sleep hypoxia with night time oxygen *(I do not have sleep apnea), and have been living at lower elevation (5000'-ish compared to 9300') and the problem slowed a bit, but still persists. I still would like to try living at sea level for 6 months to eliminate altitude a cause. I also started losartan...

And E2 is lower than it has been in years. I'd like to see it at 25. I'll increase HCG 20%.

 

[Cataceous]

Latest on 6.8mg/daily, 3.8/3 ratio of enanthate/proprionate by weight.

Previous 7mg/daily 4/3 ratio.

HCG 200iu EOD, DHEA 25mg, Pregnenlone 50mg unchanged

Total T is fine with me, but Free T took more of hit than I wanted.The ratio looks about on par with the SHBG shift. Of course trying to parse this out with accuracy could just be lost in the noise of lab error, daily swing from the prop, and everything else going on physiologically. The ester ratio may be in part responsible.
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Given that the Vermeulen free T calculation isn't showing much change, I find it to be more credible. Is this Labcorp's ultrafiltration free T test? Although it's supposed to be an accurate method, if it's as temperamental as equilibrium dialysis then it's easy to envision an erroneous measurement in the mix.

 

[Joseywales95]

How is your libido and erection quality?

 

[Deleted member 16042]

How is your libido and erection quality?

Just fine. Though the honeymoon period when I started TRT was like being 18 again, I never had problems even when I was hypogonadal with free T in single digits, and no problems now. Lucky I guess.

 

[Deleted member 16042]

Given that the Vermeulen free T calculation isn't showing much change, I find it to be more credible. Is this Labcorp's ultrafiltration free T test? Although it's supposed to be an accurate method, if it's as temperamental as equilibrium dialysis then it's easy to envision an erroneous measurement in the mix.

Yes ultrafiltration.

Not happy about the Vermuelen numbers... Sure not going to reduce dose further! I am calling this the lowest effective dose for my needs. Doing OK, but did feel more super when I was on higher dose. Complicated parsing it all though with the cancer.

f I ever pull out of the HCT problem I will increase dose again.

 

[Deleted member 16042]

Holy crap, I don't know if it is the long term decrease in dose or something else. My case of high HGB/HCT is potentially multifaceted, but today 16.3/47.7, Hallelujah!

I'll ride this out a couple months and see about a small dose increase if it stays down.

 

[Cataceous]

Holy crap, I don't know if it is the long term decrease in dose or something else. My case of high HGB/HCT is potentially multifaceted, but today 16.3/47.7, Hallelujah!

I'll ride this out a couple months and see about a small dose increase if it stays down.

That's good news. I hope it is the cumulative effect of the lower dosing.

 

[SS1LE]

Holy crap, I don't know if it is the long term decrease in dose or something else. My case of high HGB/HCT is potentially multifaceted, but today 16.3/47.7, Hallelujah!

I'll ride this out a couple months and see about a small dose increase if it stays down.

@Blackhawk where are you getting the blend from and cost if you don't mind?

 

[Deleted member 16042]

@Blackhawk where are you getting the blend from and cost if you don't mind?

I buy enanthate and proprionate through Defy, and mix them myself in sterile vials.

 

[Gman86]

Dr Saya is my Dr, I buy enanthate and proprionate through Defy, and mix them myself in sterile vials.

Defy allows u to be prescribed and buy both at the same time? That’s pretty cool of them if that’s the case