Considering Lowering Dosage

[JRoop]

Hello!.. I've been on TRT for five months now. My protocol is 200mg of Test C, HCG, and 1mg Anastrazole weekly (Yes, cookie cutter). My most recent labs came back with my Test being higher than 1,500 (out of range) and my estradiol at 38 (in range, but towards high end). I realize this way high. Also, I have gained 24 pounds and feel way too heavy. I'm 5'11' 224 lbs (44 years old). When I started TRT I was 200 lbs.

Although my doc said everything looked great and recommended keeping the same protocol, I'm going to scale it back down to 160 of Test-C per week starting this week. Do you all think this will help with the bloat/weight gain? I'd like to be functionally fit and athletic, not bulky and immobile. ... My diet consists of whole foods, is clean, and comes in around 2,500 daily. My workout routing is bodybuilding and running.

Should I notice any difference in the way I feel backing down the dose, and does anyone have any advice about the proper approach to take with this?... My clinic also switched the HCG to Gonadorelin, so that will factor in. .... I really appreciate this community, and you guys are always so helpful. Thanks in advance!

 

[ERO]

I doubt you will feel any different on the lower dose. If you are not already doing so, I would recommend splitting the 160 dose into a twice weekly injection schedule. So like Monday AM Thursday PM. Same with the HCG.

 

[madman]

Hello!.. I've been on TRT for five months now. My protocol is 200mg of Test C, HCG, and 1mg Anastrazole weekly (Yes, cookie cutter). My most recent labs came back with my Test being higher than 1,500 (out of range) and my estradiol at 38 (in range, but towards high end). I realize this way high. Also, I have gained 24 pounds and feel way too heavy. I'm 5'11' 224 lbs (44 years old). When I started TRT I was 200 lbs.

Although my doc said everything looked great and recommended keeping the same protocol, I'm going to scale it back down to 160 of Test-C per week starting this week. Do you all think this will help with the bloat/weight gain? I'd like to be functionally fit and athletic, not bulky and immobile. ... My diet consists of whole foods, is clean, and comes in around 2,500 daily. My workout routing is bodybuilding and running.

Should I notice any difference in the way I feel backing down the dose, and does anyone have any advice about the proper approach to take with this?... My clinic also switched the HCG to Gonadorelin, so that will factor in. .... I really appreciate this community, and you guys are always so helpful. Thanks in advance!

How many days after your injection was bloodwork done?

What is your hemoglobin/hematocrit?

If you tested at the true trough and you are hitting a TT 1500+ ng/dL then you easily have room to lower your dose mind you what matters more is your SHBG and where your FT level sits on such dose (200 mg/week) at the true trough.

Depending on your SHBG you would most likely do better injecting more frequently as not only will blood levels be more stable throughout the week but you will minimize the peak--->trough.

As long as you achieve a healthy FT level on the lower dose it it doubtful you will feel worse off and if anything you may very well feel better overall.

Keep in mind you will need to give it 4-6 weeks until blood levels stabilize and during this transition, you will most likely experience some bumps along the way but do not get discouraged as it will take time for the body to adapt.

Will need to give the new protocol (dose T/injection frequency if you change) 2-3 months to gauge how you truly feel overall.

 

[Vince]

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[JRoop]

How many days after your injection was bloodwork done?

What is your hemoglobin/hematocrit?

If you tested at the true trough and you are hitting a TT 1500+ ng/dL then you easily have room to lower your dose mind you what matters more is your SHBG and where your FT level sits on such dose (200 mg/week) at the true trough.

Depending on your SHBG you would most likely do better injecting more frequently as not only will blood levels be more stable throughout the week but you will minimize the peak--->trough.

As long as you achieve a healthy FT level on the lower dose it it doubtful you will feel worse off and if anything you may very well feel better overall.

Keep in mind you will need to give it 4-6 weeks until blood levels stabilize and during this transition, you will most likely experience some bumps along the way but do not get discouraged as it will take time for the body to adapt.

Will need to give the new protocol (dose T/injection frequency if you change) 2-3 months to gauge how you truly feel overall.

Thanks so much for the thoughtful feedback! The labs were drawn 4 days after my most recent injection. I will be splitting the dose up twice weekly. I'll also be getting my blood work done in 6 weeks.

 

[Julius Fortes]

Good evening my friends, greetings from Brazil.
I have been doing research on HCG for a week and it is very difficult to find anything concrete. Dosages differ widely.
My biggest concern is keeping the cascade of hormones, produced by lh, active (pregnenolone, dhea and etc.)
I read several reports of well being and etc and I really want to feel it
I am currently using TRT cypio 150mg 2x week (75mg per application)
Reading Dr. Crysler's protocol, there is guidance and applying HCG two days before the application of testosterone, therefore, I am thinking of making two applications of 250UI of HCG, always one day before the application of testosterone.
I read many reports about HCG increasing total testosterone, is that really true? If so, I will be required to decrease the dose of my testo injection.
Could you help me with some suggestions?
Thank you.