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As posted in previous posts around the forum, I've dropped the HCG 5 weeks ago, because it was impossible for me to control the spike in E2 it was giving me, despite injecting only 50IU 3 times a week.
I gave a daily T enanthate injections protocol a go, starting with 10mg per day.
2 first days I felt immediately better and my gynecomastia shrank considerably, at the point it wasn't visible anymore. Things got worse soon though. I developed an insane amount of anxiety throughout the whole day, sweating insanely (while the others around me were fine), terrible sleep (as documented in other posts), increased hair shedding and gynecomastia. I waited 2 weeks and I dropped to dosage to 7.5 mg per day and I've got lab 3 weeks after, with the blood drawn in the morning before the next injection:
Free T = 28.20 pg/mL (4.2 – 30.4 pg/mL)
E2 = 61.71 pg/mL (10 – 40 pg/mL)
Prolactin = 13.56 ng/mL (2.1 – 17.7 ng/mL)
Consider that I am temporary on Cabergoline 0.375 mg per week in 2 doses to control the spike of prolactin due to high E2, otherwise it would have been 48 ng/mL like the previous blood test.
Anyway, for now I've dropped the dosage further down to 5 mg per day, the minimum I can count effectively on the syringe, but I think that won't work due to the Free T/E2 ratio at the moment.
After almost 2 years of protocols trials and meticulous blood tests, I know my E2 don't have to exceed 35 pg/mL or I start having symptoms. I post here some of my previous blood tests to show you what I have tried and what has been the outcome, hoping you could help me.
On a 2x week injections protocol (100 mg first, then 80 mg, then 60 mg per week) my E2 was always 42-43 pg/mL the day after the injection, giving me symptoms, while total T was around 1000. I did also a blood test on 60 mg per week divided in 2 doses the day before the next injection, and total T was 712 ng/dL with E2 at 42.8 pg/mL. The day after, before the injection, total T would have been probably around 400-500 ng/dL, which means I don't really do good on 2x week protocol and I have to go more frequent (SHBG are always between 22-26).
So now, if 5mg per day fails, I won't have any other choice than going EOD, as 2x week puts me on a rollercoaster, but I don't know which dosage to try to keep E2 in range.
Then, if I won't be able to control E2 like that, I will have to introduce exemestane unfortunately, because it seems I'm doomed with crazy aromatization, despite a healthy lifestyle and a fit shape.
Just to give you an insight, last year I tried as well 25 mg of T 2x week along with 6.25 exemestane once a week. The day after the injection total T was 962 ng/dL, E2 27.7 pg/mL and prolactin 9.28 ng/mL for the first time in my life without any cabergoline. That's where I felt the best.
Issue is that I repeated the test the month after, but this time the day before the injection, and total T was 470 ng/dL, E2 29.7 pg/dL and prolactin 13.11 ng/dL, which means I need to pin more frequently.
Sorry for the long post, but I hope you could give me some suggestions.
I gave a daily T enanthate injections protocol a go, starting with 10mg per day.
2 first days I felt immediately better and my gynecomastia shrank considerably, at the point it wasn't visible anymore. Things got worse soon though. I developed an insane amount of anxiety throughout the whole day, sweating insanely (while the others around me were fine), terrible sleep (as documented in other posts), increased hair shedding and gynecomastia. I waited 2 weeks and I dropped to dosage to 7.5 mg per day and I've got lab 3 weeks after, with the blood drawn in the morning before the next injection:
Free T = 28.20 pg/mL (4.2 – 30.4 pg/mL)
E2 = 61.71 pg/mL (10 – 40 pg/mL)
Prolactin = 13.56 ng/mL (2.1 – 17.7 ng/mL)
Consider that I am temporary on Cabergoline 0.375 mg per week in 2 doses to control the spike of prolactin due to high E2, otherwise it would have been 48 ng/mL like the previous blood test.
Anyway, for now I've dropped the dosage further down to 5 mg per day, the minimum I can count effectively on the syringe, but I think that won't work due to the Free T/E2 ratio at the moment.
After almost 2 years of protocols trials and meticulous blood tests, I know my E2 don't have to exceed 35 pg/mL or I start having symptoms. I post here some of my previous blood tests to show you what I have tried and what has been the outcome, hoping you could help me.
On a 2x week injections protocol (100 mg first, then 80 mg, then 60 mg per week) my E2 was always 42-43 pg/mL the day after the injection, giving me symptoms, while total T was around 1000. I did also a blood test on 60 mg per week divided in 2 doses the day before the next injection, and total T was 712 ng/dL with E2 at 42.8 pg/mL. The day after, before the injection, total T would have been probably around 400-500 ng/dL, which means I don't really do good on 2x week protocol and I have to go more frequent (SHBG are always between 22-26).
So now, if 5mg per day fails, I won't have any other choice than going EOD, as 2x week puts me on a rollercoaster, but I don't know which dosage to try to keep E2 in range.
Then, if I won't be able to control E2 like that, I will have to introduce exemestane unfortunately, because it seems I'm doomed with crazy aromatization, despite a healthy lifestyle and a fit shape.
Just to give you an insight, last year I tried as well 25 mg of T 2x week along with 6.25 exemestane once a week. The day after the injection total T was 962 ng/dL, E2 27.7 pg/mL and prolactin 9.28 ng/mL for the first time in my life without any cabergoline. That's where I felt the best.
Issue is that I repeated the test the month after, but this time the day before the injection, and total T was 470 ng/dL, E2 29.7 pg/dL and prolactin 13.11 ng/dL, which means I need to pin more frequently.
Sorry for the long post, but I hope you could give me some suggestions.
