Botox for your sexual health.

Just wondering if anyone out there has tried the botox shots for ED yet, besides me? If you get them thru the P shot trained docs working with Dr. Runnels, they refer to them as "Bocox" shot. There are other plastic surgeons offering them for ED and "male enhancement". Supposedly according to some of the plastic surgeons you can get more girth and length from it too. I have not seen the data to support that claim. Basically, they inject 50-100 units of Botox injecting two 25 unit shots each, into each side of your cavernosum. It really wasn't any worse than ICI inecting, so not painful. Basically, the botox paralyzes certain nerves which lets the arteries stay more open and let more blood flow into your penis. It supposedly takes a few weeks for the botox to paralyze the smooth muscle in the arteries to allow them to stay open. However, my experience has been different. It has been less than a week since I was injected with Botox and I have already seen remarkably good results. Faster than expected and very positive results. I am wondering if the effect will last as long as the physician suggested in would (4 months or so). If anyone else has had a botox shot series please let me know how you have done. I have already found erections far easier to get, far easier to keep, and as I continue to see gradual improvement every day, I am nearly at a point where I might not need Tri mix at all. BTW IF you do get a botox injection and are using Tri Mix or others, cut your dosing back significantly......trust me. I didn't get into trouble, but you easily could. If the benefit holds, this is a game changer for a lot of men. Regarding cost. Many physician will likely charge in the range of $2000 for a shots totaling 100 units. However, I can honestly say, if you can give up injecting Trim mix, and save the cost of ICI meds, this might be worth it for you especially if you only need to be re injected every 4-6 months, and gain a good erection the way you did in your 20's, think about it, and watch it happen.

 

$350 would be a real deal if you can find someone to do it for that. It's really simple, you can get either 50unit, or 100units injected all at once. They usually use ice or a numbing cream for you and inject about a third of the way out from the base of your penis on each side, and about 2/3 the way out on each side. So you are getting 25 units in each of 4 injections. I pay about $1000, I have heard as high as 2$ which is ridiculous, but I have also heard about $800 on the low end. They have a captive audience.

$350 is what they should charge, IMHO, since a 100u vial costs about $600 and contains enough for about 3-4 patient penile treatments (MDs here can chime in). That's close to having me do it myself.

Has anyone who had Botox done use Viagra or Cialis only after? What were effects?

 

$350 is what they should charge, IMHO, since a 100u vial costs about $600 and contains enough for about 3-4 patient penile treatments (MDs here can chime in). That's close to having me do it myself.

Has anyone who had Botox done use Viagra or Cialis only after? What were effects?

It's $900 where I am. Thats for 100u though (50 each side, only way they offer it).

I find that it is helpful but not a total fix. I also had a much better response the first time vs the 2nd time I had it done.
My ED is kinda a two fold issue though, I have a doppler diagnosed venus leak and also it seems my ED gets ultra bad unless my hormones are also perfectly in check. So someone with lesser ED issues might have an amazing response to it.

 

Botox… hmm
Sounds like you c0ck is now a real WMD…
Wiener of Massive Delight

Joking aside, I do know they use it for ligaments in that area when people suffer from chronic conditions, overactive cremasteric response, and chemical ligamentolysis which is the procedure of increasing penile length by lengthening the suspensory ligaments.

 

Interesting… never heard of botox being used for ED. It seems it can be combined with p-shots (PRP) at the same time for better results.

Did you notice any changes in hang size or even an increase in length? The info I found on Bocox mentions that permanent length gains could be a nice secondary effect on some patients, but the bocox efficacy study doesn’t seem to mention this.

 

I would say temporary length gains as it would hang a little more flacid. But also the botox only lasted about 2 months give or take as well

 

I would say temporary length gains as it would hang a little more flacid. But also the botox only lasted about 2 months give or take as well

2 months doesn’t sound terrible if one could go without tri-mix during that time (except for the price tag of course).

Out of curiosity, have you ever tried gainswave + p-shots? (I have, and they did work, perhaps longer than bocox). Or have you ever looked into Muse (pge-1 pellet that is inserted into the urethra) or compounded tri-mix gel (for urethra as well), or even the newer tri-mix sprays?

I have been on cialis 5mg daily for a few months. The first 2-3 months it worked incredibly well, giving me crazy hard erections all day long. But now it’s starting to loose its effect, where I can still get hard but it’s often difficult to stay hard for long. I am considering Muse (too afraid to inject tri mix)… my insurance covers it but my doctor won’t prescribe it because he’s not familiar enough with it. I think it got FDA approval only a couple of years back.

 

Yea for me it wasn't enough to not use PE5s in addition. So like it helped but didnt fix. Usually i'll take 20mg Cialis and 100mg Viagra together. With the bocox I can get away with one or the other.

Ive had P shots and tried the Phoenix (which is athome shockwave). P shots add sensitivity for a few weeks. Shockwave I thought was inneffective.

all the other things you listed I have not done.

 

Sorry I didn't see the above questions regarding P shots until now. A P shot is an activated platelet/growth factor injection. the doctors who do this, will draw a large tube of blood from you, put it in multiple tubes, and spin it down in a high speed centrifuge. It's not a lot of blood, just larger than a single tube. By spinning it down, they collect the platelets, and then draw them up into insulin type syringes, usually 5 syringes. They "activate" the platelets, by mixing in calcium (I think) and reinfect your own platelets into your penis at two shots on each side of the cavernosum, and one shot at the glans. Most docs who do these provide numbing cream or do a nerve block, so it's not too bad. immediately after they have you use a penis pump to draw blood into your penis and hold it on for 10 minutes at as much vacuum as you can't stand, not to exceed 10lbs of vacuum. They want you to use the pump every day for 10 minutes for a given period of time usually 6 weeks if I remember correctly. What it is supposed to do is help your penis grow new micro blood vessels, and heal the existing blood vessels smooth muscle lining with new healthy tissue. I did gain quite a bit of sensitivity, and a significant amount of girth either from the activated platelets or use of the pump or both. It became easier to get erections but I still needed help in keeping the erection long enough for sex. Would I do it again? yes. I am considering getting another one early summer. it did help.

 

I wanted to give an update on the botox treatments. So I have now had three treatments. The first one worked extremely well. lasted months, and gradually began to lose benefit. Exactly what my doc informed me of, and what was expected. It was truly a game changer. However, for some reason, my second injection didn't last nearly as long. We are at a loss as to exactly why. It appears there are some people who become "immune" to botox, and it is possible I am one of those. For the third injection, because of the ok response of the 2nd injection, but not great success of the first, my doc used dysport. It has the ability to spread in the injection area better. It's only been a few days, but so far, it appears to be working better than the second injection by far, although not as good as the first time. At this point, it looks like a pretty good result. The test will be to see if it lasts. Again, after the injection much greater ease in getting an erection and keeping it without injecting ICI would be possible. Best part, significantly increased sensitivity. It's greatly improved. I can now get erections with little more than seeing an attractive woman. When you get good results, the mental stimulation really drives libido and the increased sensitivity keeps things going. Guys this stuff is good stuff! and unlike PT 141 or Vyleesi, no side effects. BTW. for those who can use PT 141 Bremelanotide, Empower now has it in stock again. I am going to retry it, at much lower, half dose of Vyleesi. I tried Vyleesi 4 times. The first three no big problems just some transient nausea. The 4th time.....sick as a dog for two days. I think the Vyleesi dose is too large. The effect lasted for days. That would be good, if not for the nausea.

 

I wanted to give an update on the botox treatments. So I have now had three treatments. The first one worked extremely well. lasted months, and gradually began to lose benefit. Exactly what my doc informed me of, and what was expected. It was truly a game changer. However, for some reason, my second injection didn't last nearly as long. We are at a loss as to exactly why. It appears there are some people who become "immune" to botox, and it is possible I am one of those. For the third injection, because of the ok response of the 2nd injection, but not great success of the first, my doc used dysport. It has the ability to spread in the injection area better. It's only been a few days, but so far, it appears to be working better than the second injection by far, although not as good as the first time. At this point, it looks like a pretty good result. The test will be to see if it lasts. Again, after the injection much greater ease in getting an erection and keeping it without injecting ICI would be possible. Best part, significantly increased sensitivity. It's greatly improved. I can now get erections with little more than seeing an attractive woman. When you get good results, the mental stimulation really drives libido and the increased sensitivity keeps things going. Guys this stuff is good stuff! and unlike PT 141 or Vyleesi, no side effects. BTW. for those who can use PT 141 Bremelanotide, Empower now has it in stock again. I am going to retry it, at much lower, half dose of Vyleesi. I tried Vyleesi 4 times. The first three no big problems just some transient nausea. The 4th time.....sick as a dog for two days. I think the Vyleesi dose is too large. The effect lasted for days. That would be good, if not for the nausea.

Empower seems to have raised their price excessively on the PT-141. I now get it from TailorMade Compounding. Much cheaper.

 

Ribeye,

I wanted to thank you for posting all of your experiences with these different treatments. Also, glad to hear that the shockwave treatment helped someone other than just myself. I realize that it doesn't work everyone, especially considering the wide variety of machines and protocols. The botox treatment is fascinating. Going through a current rough patch on erection quality after 10-11 months of great results. That long positive period corresponded to 5 shockwave sessions last January. May fire that up again soon. Getting ready to try some low dose Pt141.

I may check in with my doctor to see if he will handle Botox in the future. (He probably will if it shows efficacy).

Never ending battle, but don't want to give up at 57. Also thankful for this site that gives a bunch of options.

Missed your thoughts about trying low dose Pt 141. I used it three times, with incredibly good results and only a little nausea that was very mild, and only lasted about 20 minutes. then the 4th time I tried it, the nausea was severe. Upchucking several times and miserable. Had to have my doc call in a script for zofran which finally got it under control. this was with branded Vyleesi which is a 1.75mg dose. I am curious if you did try the low doses of PT 141 and how it worked? The first three times, the result for me was outstanding. Truly. And the 4th time, there I am bent over the toilet hacking my guts out with a 5 alarm erection! no kidding. Not only that, it did give me thru the roof libido too. It is a good drug, but I am thinking of trying the lower doses and taking the zofran first to see if I can get a decent result without the nausea.

 

Interesting… never heard of botox being used for ED. It seems it can be combined with p-shots (PRP) at the same time for better results.

Did you notice any changes in hang size or even an increase in length? The info I found on Bocox mentions that permanent length gains could be a nice secondary effect on some patients, but the bocox efficacy study doesn’t seem to mention this.

I did not know this, and attributed the additional length to just being effective at producing erections. And I have lost weight which helps too. However, I do think it has caused a longer "hang" even when not erect. it's really a great effect. Much more sensitivity, truly quick easy erections, that last on their own, as nature intended. no side effects. No down time. it's really a good thing.

 

I think I reported out on the other thread. Bottom line is after three times using the .1mg to .2mg 3 nights in a row, the side effects kept increasing and the erection boost decreased. So, I am suspending the experiment for now. Not worth the flushing and feeling crappy.

 

I actually might try self-injecting the botox soon as a way to majorly cut the costs. It's $1k to get it done where I live.
I can get botox from korea 1/10th of that.

 

I actually might try self-injecting the botox soon as a way to majorly cut the costs. It's $1k to get it done where I live.
I can get botox from korea 1/10th of that.

Where do you live?

 

Empower seems to have raised their price excessively on the PT-141. I now get it from TailorMade Compounding. Much cheaper.

Can I ask, what dose of PT 141 do you use?

 

Where do you live?

Vegas

 

I think I reported out on the other thread. Bottom line is after three times using the .1mg to .2mg 3 nights in a row, the side effects kept increasing and the erection boost decreased. So, I am suspending the experiment for now. Not worth the flushing and feeling crappy.

I was wondering if you noticed any performance improvements at the 0.1 mg doses? The makers of branded Vyleesi claim not to use it repeated nights in a row and not more than 2 X per week, 8 X per month, but that's a much higher dose at 1.75 mg. I was hoping to try half that strength, but curious of anyone else's results. Thanks.

 

I certainly noticed some modest improvements with those low doses, but that seemed to fade after repetitive use.

 

Vegas

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