Any Humanofort users alongside their daily, micro Testosterone injections?

[FunkOdyssey]

Thanks, I've been using both TC and Empower's TC4:TP1 blend. Sometimes I will go a couple weeks on one and then the other for a couple weeks. May not be enough TP, and I haven't tried solo TP or the cream. I can't let a little thing like sleep / mood / family / professional duties get in the way of my righteous gainz. Must suck it up and reach my ultimate vibrational level.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. The only thing that really scares me is the heart stuff and AFIB but so far heart behaving again for most part. And with my dulled brain / nervous system now even a decent few seconds of SVT does not even phase me. Knock on wood haha.

Another thing worth trying to counter TRT insomnia IMO is high doses of phosphatidylserine. I saw this one recommended by some gurus and it is not a terrible idea. It appears to work by reducing cortisol levels and seems safe and sustainable.

 

[bixt]

I introduced the clonazepam back in at 1 mg before bed along with 1 mg melatonin.

- If you are going to use benzos, short half life is best. Minimal exposure. Personally think alprazolam/z drugs are a better choice than valium or clonazepam for example. Temazepam even better, but (relatively) expensive and hard to get. The feel goods the next day are because half the clonazepam dose is still active and you are buzzing on that.

- Why both 1mg clonazepam (a hefty dose for a newbie) and melatonin? Nice long breaks are needed for low dose benzos to work again. So how to sleep in the interim? This leads us to below:

- Alternate tiny amounts of various things.
3 nights alzam or short acting benzo or z drug.
3 nights a quarter tablet of 25mg seroquel OR 12mg chlorphenoramine or some other potent histamine blocker.
3 nights one third capsule of the smallest trazodone dose u can find (mine are 50mg caps).
3 nights of a vape or *****.
3 nights melatonin.
3 nights MK677.
Etc etc. Each substance must work by a different mechanism of action. By the time u back to alzam, 0.25mg is back to working like a beast.

 

[Willyt]

That guy is a real asshole who masquerades as the inventor of 70mg/week of daily injections, but with his promotion of humanofort ad nauseum in the next sentence almost every single time that protocol is mentioned. I get sick every time he throws words like "lignand" around to feebly explain why not only does his crap survive the stomach digestion process, but works better than HCG (amongst a 1000 purported other benefits). He has provided no proof to date and your account and posts will mysteriously disappear if you question him too much.

It's a shame because that protocol (10mg/daily) is one of the best I have tried (gym performance and gains aside). That thread which I have linked to before has 100s of success stories. It's a real shame this scammy humanofort promotion is intertwined into it.

Agreed that the 90+ page thread gets tainted by this product. Too bad because it includes many good anecdotal nuggets on value of 10mg daily protocol and this is coming from bodybuilders lol (a skeptical crowd on low dose to say the least!).

One thing that has intrigued me is Emeric's rotation of 8 weeks @10mg followed by 8 weeks @ 6mg. Long buildup and tail because he's using cypionate so probably smoother than it sounds.

 

[bixt]

One thing that has intrigued me is Emeric's rotation of 8 weeks @10mg followed by 8 weeks @ 6mg. Long buildup and tail because he's using cypionate so probably smoother than it sounds.

He also (at least earlier in the thread) was throwing in a few weeks of 20mg a day. I'll give credit where its due, the rotation of 6mg, 10mg, 20mg (or thereabouts) works very well for me. Keeps the elusive honeymoon going for sure. I can't emphasise this enough.

Where he then got caught was when he made a claim that humanofort + TRT sustains natural production, lh, fsh, fertility etc. He staunchly maintained that position, refused to back down when he got called out on that and ignored repeated requests for proof (and by proof we talking anecdotes, bloods etc). He then changed the goal posts by saying 5 or 6mg + humanofort will cause LH to rise. Thats when I noticed posts disappearing etc.

For sure, such a low dose may indeed cause LH & especially FSH to rise if the blood levels were below the hypothalamus set point, but to claim it was the humanofort responsible for this was a blatant lie.

The things people do for money...