2 years in and the magic is gone

[Gman86]

EOD I take 40mg TC and 400iu HCG
ED: 1mg iodine. 200mg selenium. 15mg Zinc. 400mg Magnesium glycinate. Fish oil.

Just had my blood taken on Monday so I can get you some numbers in a few days

awesome, appreciate that. The only thing I love more than seeing someone’s protocol when they’re feeling great is lab work! Lol. Why such a high dose of HCG? Glad it’s working for you, but a lot of guys would get side effects at 1400iu’s/ week. What brand of HCG is it?

 

[DixieWrecked]

Well I tried various dosages and went as low as I could, down to 250iu a week because like many I experienced the estrogen sides of HCG. But my balls were still small and my semen was like nothing almost. So I took I bigger dose (400) and I felt pretty good. I did feel some estrogen I think but this time I was determined to not be so neurotic about every little thing. So I took the 400 again and still felt good. Fast forward a little over a month and I feel great. This whole month has been great. I'd say the best I've felt since I was 20. My balls are totally full and I ejaculate as if I weren't onTRT. My mental state is great. I'm calm and collected but my aggressive focus in the gym has been awesome. So I went and got labs.

This is on empower HCG.

 

[Vince]

I would have to agree about stop being the HCG and probably the AI and do your labs Monday morning before you inject. See what results you get and and adjust from there. Some members can't use HCG.

 

[Gman86]

Well I tried various dosages and went as low as I could, down to 250iu a week because like many I experienced the estrogen sides of HCG. But my balls were still small and my semen was like nothing almost. So I took I bigger dose (400) and I felt pretty good. I did feel some estrogen I think but this time I was determined to not be so neurotic about every little thing. So I took the 400 again and still felt good. Fast forward a little over a month and I feel great. This whole month has been great. I'd say the best I've felt since I was 20. My balls are totally full and I ejaculate as if I weren't onTRT. My mental state is great. I'm calm and collected but my aggressive focus in the gym has been awesome. So I went and got labs.

This is on empower HCG.

Really appreciate you reporting your experience. I’ve been very interested in adding HCG back into my protocol. Thanks again. Can’t wait to see what your labs look like.

 

[Vonko1988]

I would try to ditch the AI on your place. You can try to replace it with zinc citrate

 

[DixieWrecked]

As promised here is my bloodwork. I am pretty surprised. I was not expecting my Estradiol to be that high. When comparing my bloodwork from 4 months ago I may drop my HCG dose to see how I feel even though I am feeling pretty good at the moment.

Protocol 12-30-19: TC=40mg + HCG 400iu EOD
Test = 1165
FT = 29.8
Estadiol = 79.8

Protocol 8-30-19: TC=40mg + HCG 300iu EOD
Test = 1254
FT = 29.2
Estradiol = 40.1

 

[fifty]

If you feel good I would consider changing nothing. Labs are 1 second of time out of months that may or may not be totally accurate anyway.

 

[Vonko1988]

If you feel good I would consider changing nothing. Labs are 1 second of time out of months that may or may not be totally accurate anyway.

I vote for this as well. How you feel is why we get into TRT, not because ink on a piece of paper. Best doctors treat based on symptoms and numbers are secondary