100 mg week testosterone

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I appreciate your opinions and appeal to your experiences. These are the numbers I took during week 6 with 100mg of enanthate once a week. What I find most astonishing is my free testosterone of 273pg/ml. I'm attaching my results.

I think I'll have to reduce the dose to at least 60mg a week. What do you think?
 
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I appreciate your opinions and appeal to your experiences. These are the numbers I took during week 6 with 100mg of enanthate once a week. What I find most astonishing is my free testosterone of 273pg/ml. I'm attaching my results.

I think I'll have to reduce the dose to at least 60mg a week. What do you think?

How many days post-injection were your labs done?

You are hitting a high TT 944 ng/dL with a lowish SHBG 22.1 nmol/L which has you hitting a high FT 27.3 ng/dL.

You are missing critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.

You have reached steady-state but you are only 6 weeks in and although blood levels have stabilized it will still take a few more months for your body to adapt to its new set-point and this is the critical time period when one needs to gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-T symptoms and overall well-being.

Every protocol needs to be given 12 weeks before claiming whether it was a success or failure.

How do you feel overall?

If you are feeling well overall minus any sides and blood markers are healthy then I see no reason to lower your dose 6 weeks in.

I would just ride it out a few more months before deciding whether you need to make any adjustments.
 
The extraction was right at the valley. I did it just one hour before my next injection on the seventh day. Regarding giving it time, I completely agree, but I think if I continue with this, it will surely give me problems, red streaks, estrogen, etc.

I feel, let's say, not very well in terms of erection quality and libido. A warning sign is that towards the last day, my libido increases a little, so I think I'm overmedicated. Imagine that I'm reaching a very high free testosterone level, and this is at the valley level. I don't want to know when it's at its peak. Do you think it would be reasonable to reduce it?
23.1 is my ShbG. Sorry it's blurry.
 
How many days post-injection were your labs done?

You are hitting a high TT 944 ng/dL with a lowish SHBG 22.1 nmol/L which has you hitting a high FT 27.3 ng/dL.

You are missing critical blood markers RBCs, hemoglobin and hematocrit.

You have reached steady-state but you are only 6 weeks in and although blood levels have stabilized it will still take a few more months for your body to adapt to its new set-point and this is the critical time period when one needs to gauge how they truly feel overall regarding relief/improvement of low-T symptoms and overall well-being.

Every protocol needs to be given 12 weeks before claiming whether it was a success or failure.

How do you feel overall?

If you are feeling well overall minus any sides and blood markers are healthy then I see no reason to lower your dose 6 weeks in.

I would just ride it out a few more months before deciding whether you need to make any adjustments.
Red blood cells 5.43
Hemoglobin 14.5
Hematocrit 48.8
 
The extraction was right at the valley. I did it just one hour before my next injection on the seventh day. Regarding giving it time, I completely agree, but I think if I continue with this, it will surely give me problems, red streaks, estrogen, etc.

I feel, let's say, not very well in terms of erection quality and libido.
A warning sign is that towards the last day, my libido increases a little, so I think I'm overmedicated. Imagine that I'm reaching a very high free testosterone level, and this is at the valley level. I don't want to know when it's at its peak. Do you think it would be reasonable to reduce it?
23.1 is my ShbG. Sorry it's blurry.

Okay if you tested at the trough trough (7 days) post-injection than your peak TT (within 24 hrs) and more importantly FT will be sky-high!

Your T levels will be absurdly high peak/during the first 2-3 days every week.

Hard to believe you are hitting a high TT/FT 7 days post-injection on 100 mg/week.

Yes you easily have room to lower your dose but you would most likely be better off injecting more frequently which will clip the peak while allowing one to still attain a healthy trough FT.
 
Red blood cells 5.43
Hemoglobin 14.5
Hematocrit 48.8

These are your results 6 weeks in.

Nothing to fret over here but keep in mind that when one is starting TTh or tweaking a protocol (increasing dose T) hematocrit will start rising within the first month and will take anywhere from 6-9 months or in some cases up to a year to reach peak levels.

Where ones hematocrit sits at the 6 week mark, let alone 3 months in is not where it will end up!
 
The extraction was right at the valley. I did it just one hour before my next injection on the seventh day. Regarding giving it time, I completely agree, but I think if I continue with this, it will surely give me problems, red streaks, estrogen, etc.

I feel, let's say, not very well in terms of erection quality and libido. A warning sign is that towards the last day, my libido increases a little, so I think I'm overmedicated. Imagine that I'm reaching a very high free testosterone level, and this is at the valley level. I don't want to know when it's at its peak. Do you think it would be reasonable to reduce it?
23.1 is my ShbG. Sorry it's blurry.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Yes your FT was calculated using the linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen (cFTV).


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These are your results 6 weeks in.

Nothing to fret over here but keep in mind that when one is starting TTh or tweaking a protocol (increasing dose T) hematocrit will start rising within the first month and will take anywhere from 6-9 months or in some cases up to a year to reach peak levels.

Where ones hematocrit sits at the 6 week mark, let alone 3 months in is not where it will end up!
I can't even believe it (laughs) that I've reached these levels. I think I'd fall into the hyper-responder group, especially with a normal SBG level.

I think your advice to increase the frequency is correct. In fact, by increasing my dose, would reducing it be more justified?
 
I can't even believe it (laughs) that I've reached these levels. I think I'd fall into the hyper-responder group, especially with a normal SBG level.

I think your advice to increase the frequency is correct. In fact, by increasing my dose, would reducing it be more justified?

Most definitely and you have lowish SHBG.

You can try 60-80 mg twice-weekly unless you plan on injecting more frequently.

Do what you feel is best for you.
 
is it the correct method?

The gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis would be considered the most accurate assay when it come to free testosterone but if you live in a country which does not have access to such highly doubtful if you reside in the US then you would need to use/rely upon the calculated linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen (cFTV).

The only way to know where FT truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate methods/assays (ED/UF) especially in cases of altered SHBG.

The gold standard would be Equilibrium Dialysis.

If you do not have access (highly doubtful if you reside in the US) to such then you would need to use/rely upon the go to calculated linear law-of-mass action cFTV which will give a good approximation but keep in mind it tends to overestimate FT.

As I have stated numerous times on the forum you always have the option of using/relying upon calculated FT which would be the linear law-of-mass action cFTV as it has already been validated twice (1st time was done using TT/SHBG assays no longer available) and was then eventually re-validated using current state-of-the-art ED method (higher order reference method) let alone more recently against CDCs standardized Equilibrium Dialysis assay.

Yes it tends to overestimate slightly but it is nothing to fret over!


*Calculated free T using high-quality T and SHBG assays has been considered the most useful for clinical purposes [99]. All algorithms suffer from some inaccuracies, including the variable quality of SHBG IAs [100], not replicating the non-linear nature of T-SHBG binding, different and inaccurate association constants for SHBG and albumin binding [101], and variable agreement with equilibrium dialysis results [99,100]. However, until further developments in the field materialize, the linear model algorithms [in particular, the most used Vermeulen equation [102]] appear to give, despite a small systematic positive bias, acceptable data for the clinical management and research[37,103]




 
The gold standard Equilibrium Dialysis would be considered the most accurate assay when it come to free testosterone but if you live in a country which does not have access to such highly doubtful if you reside in the US then you would need to use/rely upon the calculated linear law-of-mass action Vermeulen (cFTV).

The only way to know where FT truly sits is to have it tested using the most accurate methods/assays (ED/UF) especially in cases of altered SHBG.

The gold standard would be Equilibrium Dialysis.

If you do not have access (highly doubtful if you reside in the US) to such then you would need to use/rely upon the go to calculated linear law-of-mass action cFTV which will give a good approximation but keep in mind it tends to overestimate FT.

As I have stated numerous times on the forum you always have the option of using/relying upon calculated FT which would be the linear law-of-mass action cFTV as it has already been validated twice (1st time was done using TT/SHBG assays no longer available) and was then eventually re-validated using current state-of-the-art ED method (higher order reference method) let alone more recently against CDCs standardized Equilibrium Dialysis assay.

Yes it tends to overestimate slightly but it is nothing to fret over!


*Calculated free T using high-quality T and SHBG assays has been considered the most useful for clinical purposes [99]. All algorithms suffer from some inaccuracies, including the variable quality of SHBG IAs [100], not replicating the non-linear nature of T-SHBG binding, different and inaccurate association constants for SHBG and albumin binding [101], and variable agreement with equilibrium dialysis results [99,100]. However, until further developments in the field materialize, the linear model algorithms [in particular, the most used Vermeulen equation [102]] appear to give, despite a small systematic positive bias, acceptable data for the clinical management and research[37,103]




I know that what I'm going to ask you has many nuances, but what level of free testosterone do you consider healthy or robust? I'm 41 years old and somewhat armed, always talking about levels taken in the valley.
 
I know that what I'm going to ask you has many nuances, but what level of free testosterone do you consider healthy or robust? I'm 41 years old and somewhat armed, always talking about levels taken in the valley.

If we are speaking in terms of trough I would say 15-25 ng/dL depending on your weekly injection frequency!

Again there is a drastic difference between one hitting a high-end/high trough FT injecting daily vs twice-weekly vs once weekly.

This is where most fail as so many are caught up on that more T is better sheep mentality bullshit thinking they need to be hitting a high let alone absurdly high trough FT let alone 24/7 steady-state in order to experience relief/improvement of low-T symptoms and overall well-being.

F**king MYTH pushed by all those bros stinkin up the so called HRT/men's health forums.

The body was never meant to be jacked up on T 24/7!

When it comes to achieving a healthy trough FT you need to pay attention to your injection frequency.

Bottomline here is do what you feel is best for you!
 
what level of free testosterone do you consider healthy or robust?
 
I appreciate your opinions and appeal to your experiences. These are the numbers I took during week 6 with 100mg of enanthate once a week. What I find most astonishing is my free testosterone of 273pg/ml. I'm attaching my results.

I think I'll have to reduce the dose to at least 60mg a week. What do you think?
Are you certain you are only injecting 100 mg of TE per week? Sometimes these unusual test numbers are result of new users incorrectly calculating their dose. I say this respectfully because I've been there!
 
Most definitely and you have lowish SHBG.

You can try 60-80 mg twice-weekly unless you plan on injecting more frequently.

Do what you feel is best for you.
In other words 30-40mg twice a week
Are you certain you are only injecting 100 mg of TE per week? Sometimes these unusual test numbers are result of new users incorrectly calculating their dose. I say this respectfully because I've been there!
Good point, also if enanthate is non-pharma you never know, most often you'd probably get less though.
 
What were the poll results? It says you cannot see the results unless you vote on the poll - which is now closed.
 
My ampoule (Testoviron depot) 250mg 1ml. Bayer, I inject 0.40. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it's 100mg.

Yes you are injecting 100 mg TE/week.

0.4 mL (40 units) = 100 mg TE


Testoviron® Depot 250 mg/mL strength:


U-100 insulin syringe


1 ml = 100 units

0.01 mL = 1 unit = 2.5 mg esterified T

Same for the 0.5 mL (50 unit) or 0.3 mL (30 unit) insulin syringes.
 

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