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Yes that was correct. I say "was" because i already pulled plug on Oxandrolone as part of protocol. Now 0 for 2 and will re evaluate. But yes, i have always been a low aromatizer. I get a big test bump out of HCG but both test and HCG provide about a 40:1 TT to E2 ratio. I've used DHEA...

ya concerned about lipids as well will have to test if i stick with this. Any other concerns like kidney and liver markers that you would test for? Are you taking the ox orally or sublingually?

Interesting, I got a minor bump in workout endurance but not as significant as yours. Does this protocol seem like something you could run long term or more like something you would cycle to occasionally?

I'm about 2 weeks into my trial. Feels like it has done exactly as intended with SHBG and free T. Has given me some additional mental energy but mild. I've been back on caffeine for a bit and have been able to reduce my intake to a single cup of green tea or two per day no coffee. Sore...

Good luck. I'm starting the same thing 5.75mg/d that's why i asked.. hoping to lower my shbg mainly and want to see if any other perceived benefits.

Interesting, did not know that, thank you

Been following this threat for a while and very intrigued. Thanks to those who have self experimented and shared your experiences. have some questions: 1) Has anyone taken before and after bloodwork on a same protocol just after adding DHT gel to compare total and free T, SHBG, and e2? 2)...

Wanted to post an update on this. Appreciate the help from everyone hoping my results can be of help to others. Also have a few follow up ?s.. So gradually i have worked my way up to 100ius of HCG EOD while lowering my dose from 126mg/wk to 105mg/wk. FunkOdyssey was spot on, i feel better in...

Interesting I've never heard of this, do you have a hypothesis of why this would be? I've seen a few anecdotes of the reverse adding iron helping. I'm glad that worked for you but I'm skeptical of adjusting this as my first move. these things can be very individualized and could be other...

Respectfully disagree. It might not give you big swinging balls, but for me 50iu EOD has pronounced mental effects mostly benefits, raises my e2 5-10pts at first then slowly comes back down, lubricates my joints, and subtlety effects libido and EQ.

Interesting. iron numbers above. Ferritin over 100 right now isn't bad anymore. I've been supplementing iron daily with lysine for about 6 months, and have also lowered dose.

Makes sense. The problem with this for me is sometimes side effects of e2 being too high vs test being too high gets muddy. I used to think all side effects were from e2 because I got brainwashed by bad material but think most were due to test being too high when i was on a larger weekly dose...

I do agree though on the fluctuations that was my point on changing protocols. its definitely something i want to try at some point.

Thanks for replying. So i have tried prop daily and 50/50 prop/enanthate daily. Neither i really liked i felt like i woke up low t every day and the results felt inconsistent. Also was a bit dry for me. Where i tend to feel best is when I change protocols and go above my current baseline...

Appreciate the response, and your content on the forum in general. PS another meat and fruit (AB) guy here... If we assumed my weekly test dose was "optimal" right now as a base for test only protocol (as in not too high or too low, obviously not feeling optimal), would you lower you dose...

Been on TRT for about 2 years. Diet very clean do not drink, smoke, or consume caffeine. Very active. Have tried a lot but not everything. As title suggests I’m feeling “flat” better than being low T but not by much. Lets say feeling about ~60% dialed in. Looking for suggestions on what to try...

Anyone have this and have any success stories/remedies? I myself find antivirals do not really work and have tried monolaurin, ***, PEMF, probably some other stuff. Find that rest and low stress helps more than anything. Also a prednisone taper works well but try to avoid over using. have...

Im dealing with this right now. Probably had forever and was never an issue until getting Covid for the first time. Now every time I get reinfected with Covid my viral levels come back thru the roof when i get bloodwork. Main symptoms extreme fatigue and brain fog, and swelling of sinus area...

Makes sense. Knew there was some reason behind it. Don't blame them for working for profit, my doc should have known to rx this in. Live and learn

Perplexing update on this. Instead of posting labs, etc. I just decided to switch brands and test. I asked my Doc for "pharma" grade test this time and asked for westward based on skimming internet anecdotes. When i picked my prescription up for CVS it was in a different box, but low and...

would total t levels like mine scare you away from trying to creep dose up?

Thanks for the follow up and agree with using same method. Not trying to call you out but saw this on another thread from you - "Most men do well having a FT level in the 30 ng/dL range.....some run higher levels and others lower" I'm interested in trying to "experiment" with getting my free t...

Thanks for responding. Guessing by this response you would favor the equilibrium dialysis method, which presumably accounts for this.. Does this make the calculated levels the less accurate of the two, and more of an approximation than actual measurement? Why so much "Vermeulen" love on here?

Also apologies for not clarifying - I know there are numerous posts on the difference in methods. My main confusion is in the free t number given my higher total t and pretty normal shbg of 37. From scanning dozens of other threads with labs I would expect with my shbg to achieve these free t...

Hello, First post, but long time follower. Really appreciate the knowledge I've obtained from this forum. I know there are many posts on this but none seem to exactly characterize my direct quadrium. Hope for some assistance and good conversation. Apologies about any retreading on topic...

Cataceous, thank you for responding to what was otherwise an old thread. I've been following the forum for a while now and have enjoyed your frequent insight. Agreed that other variables must be constant to truly determine if this is the issue. Sad part is I'm almost 2 years in and rather...

Old thread but created an account to post on same issue. Will do soon once i get bloods. Have several examples of bloods from new vial and towards end of vial on exact same protocol to know something is up. Hope to get this resolved.