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Does anyone know if Defy would be willing to work with pharmacies other then Empower?

Hello everyone, I hope everyone is doing well and is excited for the holidays coming up. After years of experimenting, pain, insomnia and more I believe I have finally found a protocol that works for me! Solvent free propionate 12mg before bed with 5mg topical dhea in the morning Funkodyssey...

Doesn’t look like your PMs are open, the company is pharmacom however. Again, temporary until I get a white market solution

No worries, Funk actually posted the name in here earlier- pharmacom. I will send you the link. It’s what I’m using until I can find a local compounding pharmacy that makes solvent free propionate. I’m going to start calling around once the holiday season is over.

Yep, no benzyl benzoate. I’ve found I’m extremely sensitive to it, I can only use enanthate, cream or solvent free prop. Is it ok if I DM you the source? Idk if we’re allowed to talk about UGL openly

Didn’t realize you were back on prop. I’ve decided to give the solvent free props try and it’s been working well for me!

Fascinating stuff, which one do you feel better on? And which ester is this?

Ah maybe that’s why… not enough angle. I use a 1inch syringe so it had to be deep enough, right? I bet I put it in way too flat then, makes sense. That was a while back but I guarantee that’s what I did wrong. I think I’ll still stick with IM, but if I ever try subq again I’ll watch for that...

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this happening to them on the forum, but subq gave me an allergic reaction. Tried it once out of curiosity, had bad pip pain and redness in the area. Went away after an hour with some Benadryl. Never had that issue with IM. I’ll stick with IM

I’ll have to look into it, I haven’t the chance to try viagra yet but I’ll try both viagra and avanafil. Cialis is just rough for me, my symptoms are similar to yours. I forgot to add the stuffed nose to my too but I get that bad. Like I can’t even breathe out of it which is extremely...

Have you tried viagra at all?

How do you take your oxytocin? Buccal? I know Defy sells the oxytocin troches but I’ve never tried them before

It’s a root that grows in South America that’s sold as a supplement for potential libido and hormonal improvement. I’ve never tried it but some say it works others say it’s dirt. Then there’s others that cook with it just to eat it haha

I’ve had the same issue while trying cialis. Lowered libido, lowered sensitivity, fatigue and hot flashes. I do not have concrete evidence, like blood tests, to prove that cialis lowered my E2, however. I will say from prior experience, my low estrogen (but not crashed, I’ve done that before)...

Distracted by how British people supposedly call it the grundle haha!

I’d do what cat recommends and try topical. Some find doing both injection and topical gives them a rise and fall similar to natural test while keeping e2 in line.

I’ve felt this with progesterone cream when taking too high of dose. That wired feeling becomes uncomfortable in a short amount of time

As always: blood tests, blood tests, blood tests. Regardless of your protocol, ester, crazy dosage. Get blood test results after every protocol change

great to hear you’ve found the best form of test for you!

Out of curiosity did you ever use Defy’s prop? If so, what were your blood levels on prop? I actually found my swing to be fairly aggressive on Defy’s prop according to my blood levels 936 at peak (5 hours later), 604 at 4pm (12 hours after injection). I can’t get it tested at 8pm which is bed...

Likely shorten due to how thin MCT oil is, I remember seeing a chart on here showing carrier oils and how they affect half life and MCT was ridiculously short.

Skin still has an extremely high 5ar concentration regardless of location. I have test results to prove different e2 on injection+cream vs injection only at the same test level and using the same ester (for injection)

The problem with prop is it’s super dependent on carrier oils and individual factors. If I had to estimate from my own test results it’s about a ~20 hour half life with Defy’s prop in GSO.

Yep, I tried shoulders and there still was an initial peak then a huge wave of exhaustion which is my tell tale sign e2 is getting a bit low. I tested my e2 on the combo and it was only 17 when I feel my best around 30.

I tried doing cream with injections which got me to normal levels but I felt like a zombie with the dht lowering my e2 levels way too much. What’s your daily prop dose?

Solvent free as in BA free?

What ratio of enth to prop do you prefer?

12mg daily in the morning around 5am

I’m doing another blood test at my local labcorp tomorrow at their latest appointment possible to see what the rise and fall is like.

Yes sorry, I’m keeping with morning dosages because my test ~4 hours after injection was 936. Shbg unchanged, e2 at peak was 40. I’m still having sleep issues on prop however. Progesterone cream’s effectiveness for sleep waned after about 4 weeks. I might switch to an enan and cream combo...

Their flexibility and compassion is second to none. It took forever to find an endocrinologist that would do a full hormone panel for me. Most wouldn’t even test e2 or tsh. Ever since I’ve switched to them I’ve been happy