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Lol this was never addressed! Unless OP was talking about the volume injected and is confused with units. So .45cc of whatever concentration and .35cc. I like higher doses of Deca a lot but just like playing with fire, one needs to know exactly what their sweet spot is otherwise they get burnt...

Quantifying the net effect is tricky and you’d need to look at animal studies for that. Exemple here, table 3: https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1365-2605.1978.tb00015.x It’s consistent with this text that says that nandrolone is 10x more progestogenic than testosterone but T...

I think prolactin should be used by default as a far superior indicator of dopaminergic vs serotoninergic and androgen/progesterone/estrogen activity. Being in the single digits shows that everything is in check and the guy is mostly doing fine, except for EQ skyrocketing his CBC

I’m aware that his free T is misinterpreted by the doctor. That’s not too relevant tho since total T LCMS comes back at 3 and some change Dhea should be pumped out by the adrenals, however since it opposes cortisol at the receptor site and nandrolone also does that it’s expected to have lower...

It’s a partial agonist, so it replaces progesterone while exerting a weaker effect. So that triggers estrogen dominance. Read up on partial agonists.

Sure thing but healthy based on what? If you’re on a nandrolone base then cellular ratios are completely different so serum levels mean… not much? Deca base 300/wk EQ is in and out GH is in there as well. Lab review 4min20sec in. E2 sensitive is 6.0, reports feeling great. It’s anecdotal...

I’ve been off of everything for a while and I’m happy with my physique and quality of life. I don’t train like a retard I’m conservative with the loads and movements (no barbell pressing…. No deadlifts….) yet my lower back and shoulders hurt like I’m on high dose winstrol. I tend to have low E2...

It’s likely that you get the effect that you get from partial agonists ie. opposite of full agonists. Meaning that such a weak binding of the progesterone receptor will actually favor estrogen dominance. My theory is that way less E2 is needed for proper function on Deca. This one dude who...

Checking in here... current regimen: HCG 250iu + Deca 100mg both E3.5D, feels great. I started breaking out from HCG 500iu E3.5D, which undoubtedly comes from the fact that I get lower shbg from 200mg/wk of AAS... which frees up testosterone, DHT (and E2). So I had to adjust that one down...

Pretty normal tbh. That said I have a history of low E2 even all natural 4 years ago so my ‘Feeling’ of normal might be skewed. Didn’t have any issue with a new girl last week... but I don’t equate health with boner quality or frequency. since HCG at that dose puts me in the 30s (pg/mL) I’m...

Quick update - on Deca 150 mg e5d and mk677 10mg pre bed and nothing else. Ordered a DUTCH test which, unlike serum testing, tracks free levels of all hormones in urine. well, e1/E2/e3 all absolutely nonexistent. Far below range. I’m guessing studies that show E2 in the lower teens should...

I’ll quickly add that this TE v ND study said the following in the abstract: So what do we make out of this? Chest gains not interesting?

Yes every study that disagrees with the bias is poorly designed and every study that doesn’t is the gold standard. Clearly a 6 weeker of Deca is ideal, groups of 7-8 subjects is ideal, but let’s take their work at face value. I will remind you both that I jumped in saying Nandrolone increases...

you’re a weirdo dude. Typical me myself and I type. Not sure who the herd is and what my push is about. I’m only here to discuss data. When challenged you go back to making things personal “I will stick to my testosterone”. Good. Idgaf what you do, and idgaf what I do. I only discuss studies and...

those two for a start: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20974577/ https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1468-1293.2006.00358.x Re: your study. Consider how much water weight is being gained from all the extra E2 when injecting testosterone VS increased nitrogen on Deca (actual...

this part is confusing. We know (From AIDS wasting patients and bodybuilders alike) that nandrolone builds more muscle than testosterone yet E2 is much less on nandrolone. I guess the question is: yes E2 is essential. But how much is actually needed? I highly doubt that more is always better.

studies agree with me. So no I won't speak for myself lol, I seldom do when i make a claim it's what data say. But yeah high dose test will blow you up like a water buffalo. I like my gains lean, my prostate small, and my hair juvenile! Couldn't care less about strength gains, I don't need to...

hey it's been a while (FYI while I'm at it, before statins some Doctors were treating high LDL with T3 which is much more physiological... read more here with some nice graphs The Central Role of Thyroid Hormone in Governing LDL Receptor Activity and the Risk of Heart Disease | Chris...

Insulin-like growth factor-1 deficiency and metabolic syndrome Moreover, results from the aforementioned Framingham heart study also demonstrated the correlation between low IGF-1 and the increasing metabolic syndrome markers [221]. A good example is the finding that low circulating levels of...

It’s nice and all that to show up trying to debate a whole group of people acting all superior, but since you obviously have no clue what you’re talking about, I’m afraid you’re making everyone lose their time yourself included. I know, quarantine sucks, and we’re all bored. by the way, your...

I’d be highly surprised that you’ll get a lot of DHN from nandrolone, if you had rather low DHT naturally. I’m positive people with”DHN” issues are those with high DHT issues, meaning high 5ar activity which is a sign of metabolic syndrome (DUTCH tests confirm this). I’m gonna go for a No, it...

This looks a lil off in terms of serum T/E2 ratio (should be closer to 30) but we don’t know how much nandrolone impacts the androgen/estrogen activity in your cells and we don’t know anything about your 5ar activity levels. I’d always get both testosterone tests done not just LCMS, so that you...

that’s a mild steroid blast... not sure how it’s related to the topic by the way

methyl estradiol is real estradiol, but the methyl group only makes it “harder” to metabolize. It’s nothing but a longer lasting estradiol.

I wish I could! NYC based... nuff said

Low E2 here naturally. I’m not sure about low E2 long term. I don’t dig consuming soy and / or flax for my estrogen receptors. I’d much rather have estradiol attach as expected. enters Trestolone... it’s on paper 6x as androgenic as testosterone (and DHN), 2x as androgenic as DHT (and...

Thanks! I don’t own any sort of scale, but last I checked at the gym I was 190ish. I’m guessing I’m closer to 200 now. Carbs = About 20oz of potatoes daily, and then rice till satiation as per below. Diet main ideas = first and foremost getting lots of what’s essential: aminos, PUFAs...

I never stated that deca dick comes from DHN either, but you wrote about using “masteron to limit the effects of DHN” which is funny to me. Nandrolone itself is on par with DHT when it comes to androgenic sides, hence your (common) issue with the renin angiotensin aldosterone system: BP, water...

Someone on Reddit was theorizing that the response to Deca dick is using Finasteride... I guess it would make sense going by the following table: Template:Relative affinities of nandrolone and related steroids at the androgen receptor - Wikipedia however, I don’t think that’s a hair friendly...

Awesome. Looking forward to the E2 test. I think HDL (so, blood lipids) would be useful as well

I’m not sure if I’ve shared that study before Increased libido on nandrolone decanoate, not significantly different from placebo I’m betting that this is yet another group of patients who have never heard of Deca dick, more likely have heard of steroids being “virilizing”, and therefore...