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What are the costs of gyno surgery these days? I have a 14 year old son who has it from puberty. Took him to pediatrician who assured us 90% of the time it "goes away on its own". Bullcrap. This Dr refused to give him tomoxifan or any AI and now its a problem. Anyone know what these procedured...

It seems that the argument against controlling estrogen is usually living in the extremes. Saying men need estrogen. Its missing the point of the men who believe in controlling it. Controlling it doesnt mean eliminating it. People like to point to studies that show harm from low estrogen levels...

I give up way too often also. I need to find a solution so I just got back on HCG and have dropped the nandrolone for a while. I'll play around with the AI also to see if anything works. Labs due soon so I'll have a few more levels tested to see if anything else can be the cause. While its...

Is E2 actually produced inside the testicles? I thought the testicles are only capable of producing testosterone and the conversion that happens is in other parts of the body and not in the testicles? I'm just not sure the testicles are producing E2. I believe E2 in men is all through the...

I'm am also just restarting HCG as an add on to TRT. Has their been a benefit shown to daily injections vs twice weekly? My goal with adding it back is to get more penis sensitivity so sex doesnt keep being a long cardio exercise. Any advise on dosages to restart things or any knowledge on...

This turned into a very informative thread. I'll admit to using Cialis when I know I have certain people coming over for the night. I don't think I really need it. It's more of an enhancer for me. But what I find is I psychologically become afraid not to use it. Like what if I don't and thats...

I do wonder about that. So I've switched for 3 months at a time away from nandrolone and took winstrol instead. Same result on the sensitivity part. Nandrolone is amazing for tendon pain. That one is hard to get off of if you are a frequent lifter. My bicep tendons flare right up.... I may soon...

I just ordered hcg again. I stopped taking it when defy sent out the stuff about compounding pharmacies not able to produce it. So its in the mail and this was why I ordered more of it. Hoping it helps. Not wanting anymore children at 48 but I'll go back on if it gets me right again.

Ok guys. Some background. Most of my life I was like most men. Trying to think about everything else to delay orgasm. Used to use these delayed orgasm condoms. I used to want so much to last longer. Started TRT about 4 years ago. Initial T levels were 168. The last few years I have been on 200m...

Understood. I can't find the agenda for the meeting any longer where they had doctors and other speakers who came to voice their concern for the rule change. I just remember when I did see it thinking all the speakers who had a voice in the room were from lobby groups representing mental health...

I read somewhere that mental health lobby came in and had testimony at the hearing that swayed this. If you check the DEA website and look at who was given a voice it is telling. The trt community may not have had any impact on the decisions. Like everything with our government, which ever...

I am also off TRT for the same reasons. It won't happen again. I have an order in process for test from the black market. I'll keep that bottle for the future so when this happens again I have some in reserve. As a side note. If you are running low and need test skip empower and have defy...

Its not about liking the answer. It's not only about them covering the cost of testosterone. Thats cheap. I've heard its only around $50 at the pharmaacy. What about the blood work and follow up appts. What about the other meds Defy may have you on like Tadafil or T3. Can't your reg doc get...

They don't allow a month ahead. Even if they did when they never had a month delays and now they do it isnt unreasonable to expect a notification and exception of the new delays. If fact when someone is ordering if Defy knows they are having massive delays then they should let the patient know...

I am not sure this is accurate. If you are coming to a new doc or a new insurance plan and a previous doctor diagnoses you with a condition why would you have to be diagnosed. My company just hired a guy who takes high blood pressure meds. His pressure is good now. So based on this he would need...

It is top notch but after this many years the entire trt treatment process feels like something one can do on their own. My labs every 6 month are not hard to read and determine. My protocol doesn't change. My follow up appts have become just a repeat of the same appt 6 month before. Now with...

Ok guys I've been on TRT for a few years now with Defy. When I had my first labs my T was 168. I still have the old lab report. Of course every lab report since is normal or high. I am wondering if I went to a regular doctor and wanted to switch over to insurance instead of all out of pocket...

Ok guys. I'm now in the group of people waiting on who knows what for empower to get their crap together. Can we just call Defy, get our money back, have them call in a prescription to a local pharmacy, use our insurance and get our testosterone that way?

Ok guys. I'm now in the group of people waiting on who knows what for empower to get their crap together. Can we just call Defy, get our money back, have them call in a prescription to a local pharmacy, use our insurance and get our testosterone that way?

I had to stop lifting due to bad tendon pain...at least that’s what I diagnosed in the inner elbows. I couldn’t do biceps or back at all. my doctor put me in 100mgs of nandrolone (deca) with my test for this reason. everyone is different but I will say it’s made a huge difference. The pain is...

My testosterone levels measured at 177 before I started with Defy. I could get wood on a moments notice and could screw several times per day if my wife would let me. So don’t take that as meaning everything. As to my sex drive now...it’s the same. The morning wood is real which sucks when you...

I wouldn’t mess around with puffy nips. As a person who suffered from pubertal gyno trust me. Your nips don’t have to have rock hard lumps under them to have tissue growth. It’s a life time embarrassing ailment. My advice...you either need to drop your T dose, get back on the AI, and or split...

How do you feel? Any common E2 sides? Water retention? Nipples? Blood pressure? Any changes to your weight? How close were your labs to your injection?

What they continually address is the exaggerated person taking high dose AIs that results in E2 levels in the single digits. There is not a single study or any evidence at all that shows that maintaining an normal man E2 level is harmful in any way at all. No one is arguing that have E2 levels...

I don’t think it’s as simple as saying...young men make 49mgs per week so we should take 49mgs per week. What would only taking 49mgs per week do to your levels of total and free T? And since we are restricted to 49mg per week in this scenario we can’t take HCG either since that would put us...

If your labs are measuring E2 at 20 this doesn’t mean your E2 is always at 20. It could be 30 or 35 ect 2 days before you are checked. Point being that your hormone levels will bounce around and the 20,30,40 range is all close enough that within a given week you may be at all of these levels...

So if your E2 is in the 20’s you feel like crap. If your E2 is 40 then you can’t sleep and this causes anyone to feel like crap..... Maybe the reason you feel like crap has nothing to do with AIs or E2?

I'm 6'2". And statistically I won't live as long as a 5'8" man. So the older I get the less I love being tall. Enjoy your longer expected life span. :)

Good point. Before I started taking TRT my Test levels came back at 177 and my estrogen tested at 7. I may be an anomaly but I could still perform in the bedroom and never in my life had any issues with erectile dysfunction. I am 43 years old. Now I felt like crap most of the day but when it was...

You are providing "PROOF" of something no one is debating. This has gotten weird. Lets agree that we are all different and people respond differently to estrogen so one size does not fit all. 1 guy can have estrogen levels of a woman menstruating and feel great. Another guy can swell up and...

This is not evidence. Sure their are people with high E2 that do not retain water. However this is not evidence that estrogen does not cause water retention. You have contradicted yourself. A few messages up you say that you are not saying estrogen does not cause water retention. Now you are...