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Hi Rick- I've been using this for a few years now successfully with zero cases of priapism. On the first injection I can see the benefit of going to the doc for the first one if you are unsure which it sounds like you aren't. That first injection is pretty scary but it gets routine quickly...

Interesting old thread. It looks like this was deemed an ineffective protocol for men with low SHBG. Conversely, for myself, a high SHBG guy (typically in the 40's) daily prop cured every issue I had with test cyp, which I tried weekly, twice weekly and daily. I dealt with terrible acne...

I understand people who make their living in fitness and/or sports pushing the limits because that's how they pay the bills. That being said, internet personalities aren't known for being 100% forthcoming. How do you know Efferding's true health status? My TRT journey began at 200 mg weekly...

After many attempts and many hours on hold I finally got an operator to answer my call and refill my prescription on April 4th, but she said shipping times are 7 to 10 days. I immediately started taking half doses. Today I eked out my last few milligrams of test prop out of the vial. Its day...

I finally spoke with an Empower operator after 2 hours and 15 minutes on hold. She told me that they still needed more information for the refill request from my doctor - for a years old unchanged prescription. Of course my doctor has tried to provide that and can't contact them either which I...

I have had enough. I have had the same testosterone proprionate prescription with Empower for a couple of years now. For some reason on this refill the tech decided the prescription did not contain "enough information" even though it has been the same for countless refills. My doctor can't...

Thank you so much I will contact them on Monday.

Yes what Empower told me was that the state of California had not inspected the facility yet and would not allow for prescriptions to be sent to there until they did. I did not hear that about any other state.

With Empower having moved to a new facility California patients will not be able to fill prescriptions until the licensing process is complete - and there is no timeline for that last I checked. I was wondering what other compounding pharmacies can fill test prop prescriptions for Californians...

I am curious if this can be mitigated by needle size, dose or injection location. I use a 28 gauge half inch needle but propionate is so much less viscous than cypionate that I wonder if a 30 gauge would work. The dose of propionate is twice the volume of cyp as it is 100mg/ml, so as is often...

Thanks for your concern. I have a fresh vial and I will switch to that and see what happens. My current vial I have had for a few months and I had no reactions until recently so your contamination theory is definitely plausible.

The test prop is from Empower pharmacy.

I've been using 15 mg of test prop daily for a few weeks now. I rotate between six injection sites. Lab values are right where I want them to be. I am kind of a stoic so I tend to ignore side effects but I finally realized yesterday that all six of my injection sites are achy and/or inflamed...

No I am not currently on this regimen. I even made a second attempt at it, this time in conjunction with Cataceous' HPTA restart protocol, which was successful, but the Natesto was not. My trough numbers were absurdly low, in the 200's, and even my sensitive E2 came back 14 which I don't...

This is not necessarily true. If you search some of Cataceous' posts on here you will see a lot of the research around stimulating upstream hormone production and overcoming the negative feedback loop at the hypothalamus. I was inspired by his curiosity and attempted a restart at age 51 after...

These are very encouraging numbers. Thank you for reporting your results. I am also attempting to restart my HPTA with enclomiphene and I would be overjoyed if I could produce a free T in the 20's and a DHT of 30 on my own. I am 51. As for the E2, have you considered ordering the free E2...

On my trial run of Natesto I was running a trough TT level of 500 first thing in the morning 12 hours after my last application. Would that suffice? Also based on your experience would you advocate for 25 mg or 12.5 on the enclomiphene to start?

First of all I want to thank you for taking the time to discuss all of this. I find all of it fascinating and if we can encourage a few people to tackle this protocol in a scientific and stepwise manner we can really make a change in people's lives. So let's go about building the protocol...

This phenomenon makes me wonder if there would be value in rotating regimens. For example I have had my hormones dialed in on twice weekly dosing, on Natesto, now I am on 14 mg per day daily. Sometimes I will add test cream for a few months. If I switch regimens it is because of side effects...

28 gauge 1/2 inch around the beltline

If I had to do it all over again, and I had a TT of 400 and an FT of 5, I would have begun with Natesto so as to (hopefully) maintain my HPTA function. You are in a good spot with your numbers. I would opt for the most conservative testosterone option that would boost for free T and DHT and...

I thought I would post these for guys who are curious about test cream. These labs are two weeks apart at same time of day. I am on 18mg a day of subq test cyp. Defy recommended I add two clicks of test cream to the scrotum daily for DHT affects. Apologies for not testing DHT. This is the...

I have been on TRT for about three years. In January I switched to daily injections in an effort to control hematocrit, acne and sleep issues. I began at 20 mg per day and have slowly decreased my dose down to what is now 14 mg per day under the theory that the lowest possible dose is best. I...

I've been using this combo at 200 units five out of every seven days for about 8 months. Whatever results I may be experiencing are so subtle as to be indiscernible but I was in top shape with dialed in hormone levels when I began. I am considering taking a break from it so see if I can sense...

Very simple and easy buying experience. It is a stateside company so no e-check nonsense and the shipping was timely. I don't remember my price but test clinic orders from them so all I know is I saved myself the cost of letting them mark it up as the middle man.

Thread update: I recently purchased 10 vials of PT-141 from Peptide Sciences and experienced a dramatic difference from the compounding pharmacy product. First the efficacy response was dramatic and prolonged - over 12 hours. Second I experienced none of the flu like side effects of the...

I have not dealt with the red dots but that would bother me as well. I do use HCG at 150 IU a day and DHEA 25 mg twice a day (a high dose by most standards).

At the risk of opening Pandora's box I wanted to ask the question - does nandrolone have a predictable and positive effect on libido? For many of us who other otherwise dialed in on TRT libido is basically the final frontier.

I also had terrible, acne, hematocrit and sleep issues on 70 mg test cyp twice a week all of which resolved by switching to daily injections under Dr. Saya's care. I started at 20 mg daily, then 18 mg, then 16 mg, now 14 mg which is a total weekly does of 98 mg. My last labs were a TT of 1020...

Sounds like you have already gone down that road but wanted to chime in. I also had terrible, acne, hematocrit and sleep issues on 70 mg test cyp twice a week all of which resolved by switching to daily injections under Dr. Saya's care. I started at 20 mg daily, then 18 mg, then 16 mg, now 14...

I never use more than once a week. This vial came mixed which I was not happy about. Its impossible to know how long since it had been reconstituted or how conscientiously it was handled. It did come in a box with cold packs.