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3 to 5 grains are very high doses. A few people may need that, but imo most dont. If you do not feel optimal, ask your doc to add a dose in the afternoon, very important because of the T3 half life.

What works for me may not be working for you. As i said everyone is différents and thyroid is a subtile thing to optimize, sensitvity differs in everyone. I take double your dose, that means i have another dose in the afternoon

Maybe just ask my doc, he can analyze your bloodwork. In france he is known to be one of the greatest spécialist in thyroid

He is an open minded doc. I went to him with the protocol of dr keith nichols, and with all the studies for scrotal cream. Then he accepted and is helping me optimizing personaly because everyone is différents

I only felt my best when i got my thyroid optimized. I was scared of it at the beggining but when i started my treatment i understood i was going to feel awesome... It was in the normal low range before.

I apply twice daily 150mg morning 150mg night, directly to scrotum then i got all my other hormones optimized with him

You can reach him at [email protected]

It is the same for me. I have tried very low dose like 80mg per week and my e2 was still high end of the range and moreover did not felt well with a mid range free T. Best for me To have high end free T and control e2. Thats it for me.

I completely understand and what you are saying makes sense. You will be injecting it daily ?

I understand what you want to do. Maybe other members could give you advice. I think you know yourself to try and see. In my opinion it will be hard to dial in with those two esters. Once the ester is broken down by the body testosterone is testosterone. Maybe you just could go by propionate...

If it works for you go for it. I do think that it is better to go with only one ester. You will add ups and downs with propionate. You should try an intermediate dose of undecanoate per week something like 87.5mg and see where it goes?

Yes, at these dosages i believe E2 production will be moderate in the testes. Because 250ui only replaces normal ITT. More exactly one study showed -7% of basal ITT with 250 ui EOD. You can go to 275-300 ui no prob.

Yes Human chorionic gonadotrophin was more expensive too. This one is Choriogonadotropine alfa and is cheaper but works as Well as HCG.

For me on pen costs 16euros and it lasts longer than HCG. I mix it with BW and i have 6500 ui To go. Its not like with Hcg youdont only have 2 or 3 weeks, but you can keep it up To the DLC written on the box as it is already reconstituted. But in France prices of medications are really LOW...

It is effective. At Least for me...

Me the same ovitrelle from France. Powerful. The full pen le approx 6500ui so be carefull

Exactly the same. Everything is too hard to adjust and my overall feeling is not extra. Like flat. I even think that with daily cypionate if you look for high levels, the " always high " is increasing aromatisation too. With prop it looks like a wave day by day. Maybe i am wrong but i must give...

What dosage do you use daily please ?

What About a lowdose masteron like 75mg per week ?

Thank you i really appreciate. Hope stopping HCG Will be enough To finally drop the AI. My oestradiol has been double the top of the range on standard test with normal CRP. My testosterone dose is not a lot. I keep you informed once i do my BW in 3 weeks with only 0.125mg /week AI and no HCG...

Yes, but i took it twice a week To equal 0.25 /week. Maybe i should continue taking only 0.125mg / week and see how things go?

Thank you for your answer. How much time do you think i need To wait before my estrogen reach a stable place after leaving HCG ?

I have been having problems with high e2 and symptoms for a long time. Trying to find the right dosage of anastrozole is really hard for me. I have been taking 0.25 mg / week / 0,30mg per week and even this dose made me go too low. I am injecting daily 16mg of testosterone, and i take 1000ui of...

Thread starter #3 My shbg is 37.3 (range 19.3 - 76.4

Hi everybody ! First i would like To thank you all. Everyone is different and we learn a lot from this forum. For me in France it was hard finding a good endo, who was opened trying new things than the standart 1x250mg every two weeks. I inject daily for a total of 122mg. Hcg 300ui eod My...

I have had E2 : 117pg/ml range : 10-50pg/ml ) on a roche ecl ria test. I was feeling like shit. Anxiety , sometimes hot flashes , letgargy... no drive. Adding a very small dose of arimidex is absolutely changing my life. And my protocol is 15mg test/ day...

Wow ok! I understand. My dose of Ai is near jours. I use 0.30mg per week dosed every Day with drops. I make this like you dissolving in vodka 1mg. Dosing ed looks better for me because the peak is lower.

Ok that is a really low dose 0.625 per week. Yes less is better. I believe you are not a big converter.

What do you mean by 1/32mg of Ai how much mg do you take per week ?

Do you think less amount of hcg daily will produce less aromatase ?

Maybe i just should try To avoid it and see how i Feel without it. I am concerned About other hormones linked with it. I Will keep with low dose for 4weeks and Will do BW To see where is my estradiol at. And if it stay high,i will drop the HCG.