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Thanks for your reply. What was your “high dose” of HCG? How many IU and how many times per week? Were you using Pregnyl from a pharmacy, or some other brand of HCG that’s cheaper? Also, what HMG dose were you doing? Any other meds at all like an AI or anything? Also, did you inject your HCG...

2 years ago I came off TRT. For recovery, I took Toremifene at 60mg for 2 weeks, then 30mg for 4 weeks. Leading up to that I took HCG and also HMG. Clomid always messes me up…I did it 8 years ago and it gave me permanent eye floaters that I still have today. My testicles are still atrophied...

I have some injectable glutathione (preserved in benzyl alcohol) that I got prescribed last year. It’s from Empower Pharmacy, and unopened. Is it safe to use it if it says it was “expired” in December last year? Is that a real true “expiration” date?

You only take 60mg if test per week!? Wow! The HMG I am struggling to find for a decent price. 75iu 3x a week would cost me SO much every month. Why take both HCG and HMG?

Just to clarify, this will shut down or interfere with the HPTA, as LH comes from the pituitary. Will it not?

Yes it does.

The only thing with Clomid is the vision side effects. I experienced them before and they actually never resolved. Does enclomiphene not have those sides? I didn’t think enclomiphene was authorized for prescription in the US.

I’m wondering if the 500iu EOD is even worth taking. My doctor said I could go as far as 2000iu EOD, but I’m afraid of the increased E2 I’d get from that. I’m just wanting to restore my fertility to what it what a couple years. My semen analysis comes back with low-ish concentration and very low...

Thanks for this detailed reply! When I previously stopped TRT, it too months and months of very low T (levels in the 100s) before my body finally recovered. That's when I was taking Test-C for about 2 years. Would taking HCG at 500iu EOD for 2-3 months cause the same degree of shut down, and...

I want to run HCG in order to improve my fertility numbers. I’ve got 3 10,000iu bottles of HCG that my doctor prescribed for me, but I’m concerned that taking this will suppress my own testosterone production…leaving me low T or a need for a “PCT” once I stop the HCG injections. Am I off base...

Ah my bad! Sorry about that.

Fail to mention it every time? I just posted this. I haven’t posted here in forever. I mean…thanks for the help and everything, seriously, but I don’t lurk here all the time and keep up with the requirements for posting. I’d be happy to adhere to them if I knew them…which is why I posted that...

I’ve already been off TRT for nearly 2 years now.

Hmm…very interesting. I wonder if going back on TRT would reverse this. But I just can’t see how introducing exogenous T would get back my testicular size and/or increase my semen quality. Overall…I “feel” quite normal. Not really different than when I was even on TRT. My testicular atrophy and...

Would the lower FT also be causing the semen degradation and smaller testicles? I will go back for another round of labs next week.

For the total T measure it just says “IA.” And for Free T it states “ The concentration of free testosterone is derived from a mathematical model using total testosterone by LCMSMS, sex hormone binding globulin and albumin.” But even still…how does this all related to smaller testicles and...

Thanks for all of this input. I will ensure that I get the direct measure FT next time. But also, I don’t feel like I’m “struggling” really. As far as “feel,” I feel totally fine. But my balls are just noticeably much smaller than ever before, and semen quality is degraded compared to before I...

I posted my Free T as well. It’s 53.1. Also, I do have high SHBG. I did not get it measured on this most recent test, but on all my historic tests it has been between 54-65.

And sorry…just saw the typo. Total T is 584, not 684. It won’t let me edit the first post to change it. All other numbers and ranges correct and posted.

Sorry about that. Total T: 584 (250-827) Free T: 53.1 (46-224) Estradiol: 21 (less than 39)

Free T was 53.1 pg/mL

I was on a low dose of Tesy Cyp for years…about 110mg a week. I tried using HCG while I was on, but couldn’t ever get the E2 response controlled, and it also skyrocketed my T levels as well. So I just used test cyp on its own…nothing else. I eventually wanted to stop TRT. I took HCG at 500iu...

Very very inciteful! My LH and FSH levels are totally normal now that I’m off TRT…but perhaps my DHT levels are low. However, this low semen volume was occurring even while I was still on TRT. If I was on TRT, wouldn’t my DHT have been higher too?

I've taken Pygeum. I've also tried the whole "holy grail" supplement stack. Did not work at all. No difference.

Hey man. Did you ever recover your semen volume to normal levels? It has been 11 months since I stopped all TRT, and I’m still just barely dribbling. In my latest semen analysis I only produced .9 mL.

Why is IM not practical for 20 years or even 40+ years of injections? Injecting every other day, rotating between delts and thighs, shouldn’t be any cause for concern should it? Especially using 30 gauge needles.

Taking Boron 3mg a day, Maca, CoQ10, magnesium citrate, fish oil, vitamin D 5000iu, and just a multivitamin *****. I also take Nexium daily, but that’s it as far as pharmaceuticals. I recovered my levels using Torem at 30mg a day, but I only took that for 30 days after stopping my injections...

Yes, and I don’t find any science that says 62.5 is considered low free T.

I'm not sure...the lab knows I am a male. I don't know why they'd list the range for women instead of men. Is 62.5 for men super low?

Just seeing this waaaay old post sorry lol. Where do you see hypothyroidism in the labs? Those all look in range, aren’t they?

Wow! Your free t is MUCH higher than mine. My lab gave me the result in pg/mL, but when I convert to ng/dL mine is only 6.25 and yours is 33! Why would my lab show my free T result as “normal?”