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Happened to me, 8mg test prop per day was 72ng estradiol 28 hours post injection

Yeah Willy it’s been quite a ride. I’m kinda enjoying learning so much about my body but I’m definitely looking to dial in by end of year. Maybe I’ll try one of those concoctions:)

Hello, I use a half-inch needle between 27-30Ga. Subcutaneous in glutes, usually very shallow (needle is almost pointing horizontally). I just reduced my dose to 6mg test prop based off my results. I would recommend that you drop by 1mg every 5-10 days until you start noticing increased hardness...

Hello everyone and thanks for all of your responses. Sorry I’ve been busy and haven’t been able to reply back to each of you. I thought I’d attach my sensitive estradiol test which I received this morning. Without a doubt I am extremely surprised at this reading based off such a conservative...

I’m under the impression that if you have low shbg, androgens and estrogens that normally are bound and transported via this molecule are more freely available in the bloodstream and thus make their way out of the body more quickly. Which would explain your higher free test/total test values? I...

Wow ok if I take any dose above 10mg, I get crazy heart rate and blood pressure spikes. I can only imagine what 25mg ed would be like. I have to say I am curious about my bloodwork results as steroid plotter has test levels from 7mg prop per day around 400ng/dL. But any increased dose, my body...

@t_spacemonkey interesting. Maybe my dose is a bit low. If it’s peaking 4-12 hours post injection. That seems to be the window where I start to get better EQ. I realize bloodwork is the only way to tell for sure. Do you test your SHBG? Mine sits in the 40s-50s.

Hello Gents, I am currently taking 7mg of test propionate daily. 29G insulin needle subcutaneously every morning around 9-10am. This is a fairly recent switch from test cypionate (10mg ed - subcutaneous, switched a little over a month ago), for which I had not found success in terms of quality...

Let us know if you get any better after taking thyroid medicine!

A big factor I see on bloodwork for a lot of us who crashed with Aromasin is that despite injecting anywhere from high trt to supra-physiologic dosages of testosterone, estrogen doesn’t really budge. For instance, off trt my test levels are 749ng/dL but my estradiol sensitive is 25pg/mL. Then...

This is big for pssd, pfs, etc community. Hopefully they can shine some light on all of this.

@RAS : Have you seen any improvement since you hit that wall?? I'm of the opinion that if the large doses of estrogen were going to reset/stimulate the estrogen receptors in the brain/sexual organs, you may start to see an improvement (granted your trt dose is dialed in and your estrogen levels...

I would start somewhere <= 120mg. In your labs, your e2 was still a bit on the higher end. Your test levels themselves were also out of range (albeit not way off). You should leave AI out of the picture and titrate down from 120mg till you feel no heart palpitations, normal resting heart rate...

Update: New regimen: 100mg test cyp every 3 days 0.5mg estrogen valerate every 12 hours (sublingual) I use a pill cutter 125mg test dosage once per week was leaving me with worse symptoms by end of week.

Just letting you know I have high Shbg in the 60s. Your experience with medical professionals is similar to mine. I appreciate you taking the time to write out all the details and will let you know how it goes on my end.

Questions @RAS . 1. Is your estrogen valerate dosed at 400mg per bottle? The only injectable source I can find is such. According to Injectable Estradiol Simulator - A 0.8 mg dosage once per seven days on a time interval of 360 days would put e2 between 40-55ng/dl. This is 0.02 cc on an...

It’s been a little better. It still fluctuates but it’s a little stronger. I’ve only been on the estrogen for a week now. Expecting more improvements with time.

It’s a little early to tell, but I’m now doing much better. 1mg oral valerate dissolved sublingually under the tongue per day and 125mg test cyp once per week. My bones and joints aren’t aching anymore and I’m waking up with strong morning wood and experiencing sensation again.

This is a great recommendation, thanks.

I’m about to schedule an appt with dr Saya to try and increase my estrogen by either trt, estrogen supplementation or both. Tired of waiting out my symptoms since crashing in 2020.

Do you think it is absolutely required to run a SERM after cessation of HCG? I don’t like the idea of using an estrogen antagonist as it provides me symptoms of low estrogen but I would honestly try cruising on HCG if it meant some form of recovery from low estrogen symptoms after my run in with...

In the same boat. Following

What were your TSH levels?

I haven’t recovered from Aromasin crashing my estrogen. It’s been since 2020. I recently got my bloods done and saw that my test was 413ng and estradiol was at 18 where before it used to sit at 791ng and 37. Since that bloodwork I’ve tried two pcts. The first was with Enclomiphene and I actually...

The worse part for me is libido. It’s numb and that sucks.

Ok so there you go now you know why you’re having issues. That dose is way too high for you.

Do you think a small dose of valerate once a week would shut down natural production of testosterone in someone who’s not on trt? Edit: specifically somewhere around .33mg per week? I can only find 1 mg valerate and can cut that into 3rds.

Would you recommend taking test injections to boost estradiol over taking oral valerate? I’ve been seeing some studies of estradiol injections boosting dopamine receptor density in striata of male rats. Not exactly transient data to go off of.

I’m getting in trt to raise my estradiol levels as they sit at a third of where they used to

What were your bloods on 170mg cyp per week? To me, that is a lot of test per week. There’s a user in here who just found his sweet spot doing 52mg once every 7 days. Not saying this is going to be the case for you but Sometimes less is more.

That’s what I’m dealing with currently. Like lowe2guy and nurselyfe. It’s a living hell. Exemestane was created to stop the production of estrogen for women who have cancer brought on by their estrogen levels. The med is literally made to be used to destroy estrogen levels permanently. I’m of...