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    Anyone have experience using Natesto?

    @JayLay777 WTF, give the Natesto two weeks if it doesn't work move to other protocol, really. Thats not enough time for any protocol. Yea, I got punched in the balls and I didn't feel a thing.
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    Anyone have experience using Natesto?

    I used Natesto for about 2 years. started out at x2 pumps a day really felt good and finally 6 months later acclimated to x3 pumps a day. For me it worked good, I would just pump the gel and look at the gel on the applicator tip then paint the inside of my nostril but kind of tried to make sure...
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    Xyosted and Rosuvastin

    Ejection Fraction 60, Peak heart rate was 86% of age predicted max heart rate, was at (start up)55 BPM -130BPM(at end of test) hit that test. No EKG changes or symptoms to suggest ischemia at good workload and>85% max predicted heart rate. Diaphragmatic attenuation in the inferior wall. Rest of...
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    Xyosted and Rosuvastin

    @SSHSSA74,Yes that's from my recent calcium score
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    Xyosted and Rosuvastin

    Greeting, Just got my CALC Score its up from 707 (since 3 years ago) 900"s now was on Natesto 3 times daily for 2 years switched protocol started Zyosted start x1week 50mg been on it 1 month and a week. getting labs done tomorrow I will post results soon as available. My lipid panel total is...
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    Xyosted 50mg right shoulder nerve, tendon pain, pinched nerve

    Hi All, Been on (nasal gel) Natesto 2 years now but started Zyosted 50mg week done 6 sub q injections have a question, does testosterone cause tendon and nerve pain because about 3 hours after injection I felt sore on my shoulders and ignored thinking it would go away after a heavy workout...
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    Natesto: large shards UPDATE- batch is all bad.

    I live here in USA been on Natesto since 5.2022 I started @ 2 dose per day and also was supersensitive receptor could feel effects then acclimated 6 months later @ 3 doses in 2023-2024. I do feel good on Natesto for about 2-3 hours with Vaga (100mg cafffine)sugar -free energy drink on workout...
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    Natesto Expiry date 210206

    Thanks Vince for your reply plus the added information.
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    Natesto Expiry date 210206

    Happy holidays to all! I have question I just took my last dose of Natesto today and do not have another refill until Thursday at best. Seems that it went faster than usual. I found a old unused box of Natesto with a Expire Date of 210206 would it be safe to use this medication even tho its...
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    XYOSTED® 4 YOU Cash Program

    HI all, @Fortunate, been on Natesto for a year and 1/2. Recently, encountered supply problems. when on Natesto stared out at two doses then three doses a day at peak feeling good but after 3-4 hours the trough is difficult. TT < 385-485 with one TT @ 775 Now, no bad side effects I think my...
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    Natesto Application

    @madman, your post is spot on Natesto is for nasal use.
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    Any one using Empower testosterone nasal pen?

    Afternoon @Nelson Vergel " the boss man" I hold you in high regards Sir and on your long history of TRT replacement therapy blog platform! I prefer the Natesto straight off the bat over Empower nasal gel so far @ two weeks. I just read there are 29 ingredients for action in the empower pen...
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    Any one using Empower testosterone nasal pen?

    Hi all was on Natesto x3 times a day for a Year 1/2. I am currently on Empower nasal pen its kind a like a cream as opposed to a gel I am going on a 2nd week of using the product. Is there anyone using this? What are your numbers and how do you feel? Also, does anyone know where I can get...
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    Wish me luck

    wishing you the best and speedy recovery
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    NATESTO/Tlando

    madman, interesting information you are correct it is in out fast I understand my boys are smaller @ x3 times a day @ 1 year 1/2 but not small as it could have (without HCG I am not on that) vs injectable in regards to weights lifting and strength your correct. On most days I can get lifting...
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    NATESTO/Tlando

    Systemlord, thanks for that information,I seriously considering Tlando can you give me more details do you feel more stable? Natesto works good for me I feel good after an hour I dose before workout and my lifts are good than its a shot of caffeine but 2-4 hours than I need another dose..my...
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    NATESTO/Tlando

    Hi all, Does anyone here know where I can get Natesto, that is my protocol for 1 year 1/2 -3x daily pharmacy got a letter from McKesson no longer available commercially? Now seriously considering Tlando is there anyone currently on that medication and could you please tell me the pro's and...
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    Official Natesto Thread

    Hi All, and @Fortunate I have been on Natesto protocol every day X3 times a day since about a 1year 1/2 and started slow X2 times a day. My body seems to tolarate good just during the first 30 minutes feeling heart and BP going up my boys looks smaller and not as full , wife doesn't seem to care...
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    Dimm usage and dose

    Hi all, I am currently on Natesto gel , 1/4 pump x2 daily on 6/23/2022 had my blood drawn 45 min. after dosing on 6/23/2022 my blood went like this: SHBG was 69mmol/L (High) and FT 58.58pg/ml my T Level was 291 ng/dl (low) Estradiol 54pg/ml (high but in range) I was thinking to try Dim they...
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    My notes on Empower nasal T gel experiment

    @Fortunate thanks for your reply, to answer your question I started the minimal dosage of Natesto (5 /15/22) No, on other exogenous testosterone, I was back to base line 270z-288z when starting out. Yes my Estrdiol raised that was higher than I have ever seen in 2 years. I spoke to my Dr...
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    My notes on Empower nasal T gel experiment

    Appreciate Excel Male site, Is always good to hear and read and share here for me, All and @ Fortunate, Just to update, started the Natesto gel on or about 5/25/22. I took a minimal approach to the gel(1x 1/4 pump left side nostril of 2x daily) yes super small dose but its gel my application...
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    An Unusual Source of Anxiety

    Hi all and Fortunate, I have been taking this for years (14-15) I used to take 400mg while working out it always gave me like more oxygen and energy. Now I take it every day @ 200mg at breakfast or on workout days first thing before warming to lift weights it appears to help me in some way. I do...
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    Official Natesto Thread

    Hi all, my Dr. just recently prescribed Natesto nasal gel 3 times a day. I was doing TRT injection but it spiked my BP bad. Since I am new to this nasal gel can anyone here tell me if the good/bad side effects can this spike my BP too! all responses are appreciated Thanks
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    Spike In BP upon IM injection enanthate

    @ Cooper not yet, I have a follow-up this month with urologist I want to talk to him about trying Natesto or Empower formula. I am not ruling out the cream its still on the table. I was also interested in shockwaves and stem cells therapy and been awaiting other threads from people here. I know...
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    Spike In BP upon IM injection enanthate

    Fortunate, since my Bp spikes I stopped my TRT I was mostly on edge and cranky, moody at stopping but I did make it happen (October my last IM injection) have not had BP spikes @ 160/98/83 since stopping TRT, (that made me feel better on that issue) occasionally BP 120Z-138z not often. On my...
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    Anybody using Hikma/Westward/Actavis

    I have Westward-Hikma Enathate after IM injection raised BP Any recommendations to lower BP? Also now have Empower cream anyone using that please share your thoughts positives/negatives?
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    Risk of Transference with cream

    Cooper, just received prescription from Empower so I can not tell you about transference issues good question for me as well since I have children I was wondering about that also. Can you tell me how long you have been using the cream? Also my cream reads 100mg/ml 4 clicks daily..How long have...
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    Spike In BP upon IM injection enanthate

    To all and Fortunate, many thanks to you for your honest read and the link/thread about BP control.. My original protocol was IM 0.2ml x2 Week Enanthate from (*Empower*)- But after the BP spike (160/98/83) IM injection of 0.2 ml at 11:30am 2:04 pm BP (141/82/63) 3:19pm BP 143/82/70 @ 6:36 pm BP...
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    Spike In BP upon IM injection enanthate

    Hi all, Just started TRT for low T I'm just 2.8 baseline ..My Dr. and I agreed to start on a low dose @ 0.2ml x2week 80ml total to follow-up blood panel in 3 months.. I initially injected Im 0.4ml at clinic this was my first IM injection at about the 2hour mark my ears turned red and face did...
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    Wanted: the benefits of HCG, but without the anxiety it gives me. Titrate dose?

    Fortunate, Thanks I like those facts will ask about Natesto upon my next Dr. visit.
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    Wanted: the benefits of HCG, but without the anxiety it gives me. Titrate dose?

    Fortunate, About how long have you been on hcg m? before and when your E2 went up what did you notice? My Dr. did want to start me on t but I wanted to start slow,I asked about hcg and thats were he prescribed hcg m. the Dr actually wanted to start me at 2000iu x3 week but several weeks went...
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