folks on nandrolone what are some typical protocols for TRT

camygod said:

My friend who is 5 foot 6 and 68kg is Brain washed to thinking anything under 200mg is too low for trt
Obviously it's the hrt clinic he goes to that tells him that
I wonder why

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You can blame the run of the mill T-clinics, so called internet gurus, goo tube and all those bumass forums loaded with those you iknow blast n cruizerzzz!

LMFAO!

camygod said:

My friend who is 5 foot 6 and 68kg is Brain washed to thinking anything under 200mg is too low for trt
Obviously it's the hrt clinic he goes to that tells him that
I wonder why

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At the end of the day it’s all about enjoying the short time we have in this life as much as possible, and being as happy as possible, as much of the time as possible. Me and @Sly are just chill, happy, open minded guys that are doing what’s best for our overall happiness, and not trying to hide anything, while still being very cognizant of our health, and just trying to support other members here on the forum. Who cares what someone is on is called. What matters is I’m happy, healthy, labs all look great, vitals are perfect, and I commonly get mistaken for being in my 20‘s. I just turned 37. All I want to do is spread love and happiness, and help/ support any and all members here. Regardless of their personal choices.

Meanwhile, u and madman just want to spend ur time on this planet judging others and putting people down for their personal choices that make them happy. There’s no changing madman. He’s gonna be this salty and judgmental guy till the day he dies. But don’t be like him man. Focus on spreading love and support others more than casting judgment. U’ll lead a much happier and more fulfilled life, I promise u.

But this isn’t an us vs u guys thing. I’m all about community and everyone working together to help eachother achieve their goals, and just help everyone feel as good and happy as possible, and just enjoy this life as much as possible. Including u man. I’m not offended by what u said. I’m sure ur not purposely trying to hate or put us down for pushing the limits and doing what is best for us personally in our lives. I understand where ur coming from, to a degree. And I don’t think either me or @Sly really consider ourselves on conventional “HRT”. But I don’t think either of us really care about titles or labels. And I don’t think anyone else should either. I think any and all people should be welcome here, as long as they’re here to learn about and help others with optimizing their overall health and happiness, and ideally are knowledgeable about hormones, and/ or want to learn about hormones. Let’s just love and support eachother, and help eachother be as happy as possible, and enjoy our time here as much as we can. Not judge and put others down for their personal life decisions that are making them happy, and improving their lives, and the lives of everyone around them. The happier I am, the better I am to everyone around me. Including u, and every member here. So call what me and @Sly are doing whatever u want. We’re happy, our health is good, and u won’t ever catch either of us putting other members down for decisions they’re making that are improving their overall happiness and well being. Not saying u have to be just like us, but I just wouldn’t spend anymore time being like madman. Be a better version of urself. Like I said, u’ll be a lot happier and feel more fulfilled supporting others, than judging and putting them down. I guarantee it

DixieWrecked said:

Most recently I have experiments with low test, 35mg to 70mg, along with 200-300mg of Nandrolone and I can honestly say this is the best I have ever felt on HRT. Sexual function is better than all previously mentioned protocols. I feel motivated but calm. Assertive but not aggressive. Emotions are controllable and I am clearheaded. Gym performance is wonderful.

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How did this work out for you in the long run? @DixieWrecked

HSLD said:

How did this work out for you in the long run? @DixieWrecked

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Nandrolone isn't for me. I just never feel right. Uneasy or something. Insecure feeling.

Gman86 said:

We’re happy, our health is good, and u won’t ever catch either of us putting other members down for decisions they’re making that are improving their overall happiness and well being. Not saying u have to be just like us, but I just wouldn’t spend anymore time being like madman. Be a better version of urself. Like I said, u’ll be a lot happier and feel more fulfilled supporting others, than judging and putting them down. I guarantee it

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Bravo


I'm no bodybuilder. I increased the dose until I felt mentally good, good in terms to be like it was 15yrs ago. No ancillaries. I would need some proviron on lower dose. Guess the 250mg TU per week provides enough dht and no 'estrogenic' issues. Hematocrit is high but blood pressure is normal. Might try this naringin.

DixieWrecked said:

Nandrolone isn't for me. I just never feel right. Uneasy or something. Insecure feeling.

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Did you have a short time period when it was the best that you have ever felt on HRT and then you experienced side effects?

Mr_Fusion said:

Did you have a short time period when it was the best that you have ever felt on HRT and then you experienced side effects?

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Yeah its always good for a while. Until the "side effects" start to really set in. Seems to be the case for me for any anabolic.

There is this initial honeymoon period for each one of them, similar to any drug used chronically, its good at the begining until the negatives outweight the positives. For me, each anabolic has a distinct mental effect that really sets in over time. They seem to all be stimulative-dopaminish but once the dopamine goes back to baseline, you can truly assess the effects the compound has on your body systems.

nandrolone (50-900 weekly): fidgety, uncomfortable, low drive, "beta feeling" trouble sleeping, high heartrate, negative perspective in general. Paranoia. Not good for an easygoing relationship. Did some weird sexual stuff that I've never thought about and haven't since dropping it.

Primo (70-200): become a loner, really that's it. I Just give zero shits about social interaction. Kinda nice actually. I am an independent thinker naturally and I am inherently obstinent to trends and hivemind but this kicks that up a notch. Basically an anti-femminist/conformist. Doesnt make me a dick or rude, just kind of ok with doing my own thing. I look down on people that have the herd mentality and want to empathize with destructive behaviors. Instead of fighting the nonsense, i just do my own thing.

Masteron (70-200): SImilar to primo but instead of doing my own thing I am ready to uphold my principles. Self rightuous. quick to cut off the slightest tresspass. the self rightouesness makes it difficult to empathize to a dysfunctional level.

tren (35-70): sleeping not as good. Self righteous. sensetive. can get frustrated. Bold. Rolling down a window to yell at a dude that has a problem with my driving for example.

There's just no free lunch. I know some people love these compounds but I find the fact that they alter my behavior to be extremely interesting and unsettling. How much of our American culture is affected by hormonal changes caused by our water supply, or foods we eat.

Sorry about any typos.

Seagal said:

Bravo

I'm no bodybuilder. I increased the dose until I felt mentally good, good in terms to be like it was 15yrs ago. No ancillaries. I would need some proviron on lower dose. Guess the 250mg TU per week provides enough dht and no 'estrogenic' issues. Hematocrit is high but blood pressure is normal. Might try this naringin.

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Nice man, glad u figured out what works for u. Where’s the rest of ur labs sit on this protocol?

When u say HCT is high, where exactly is it sitting? Like 54-55ish?

DixieWrecked said:

There's just no free lunch. I know some people love these compounds but I find the fact that they alter my behavior to be extremely interesting and unsettling.

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Amazing post. Please join us in our group test of DHT gel so you can expand on your impressive list of hormonal behavior modification experiences:

Gman86 said:

Nice man, glad u figured out what works for u. Where’s the rest of ur labs sit on this protocol?

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Normal range

Gman86 said:

When u say HCT is high, where exactly is it sitting? Like 54-55ish?

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Jawohl, right there. It was already 52% with T in normal mid range

Seagal said:

Normal range

Jawohl, right there. It was already 52% with T in normal mid range

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For most guys I wouldn’t worry at all about a 54-55ish hct, especially if BP is good, and platelets are below half, which basically everyone is, from all the labs I’ve seen over the years. If u feel good, I wouldn’t change a thing

Gman86 said:

For most guys I wouldn’t worry at all about a 54-55ish hct, especially if BP is good, and platelets are below half, which basically everyone is, from all the labs I’ve seen over the years. If u feel good, I wouldn’t change a thing

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Thank god, I have been waiting for your ok
Seriously, had also a discussion with the readalot tard about hct: it's complicated. To avoid misunderstandings, I don't promote high hct. I increased my dose for health reasons and not for sports performance.

Piggyback on this thread, I have been on TRT for years just plain 100mg of Test a week, did add 20mg of deca a week 2 months ago to try to get some joint support. My BP has gone way up on that protocol, have not had blood test since I added the deca yet. Any way around this?

johann said:

Piggyback on this thread, I have been on TRT for years just plain 100mg of Test a week, did add 20mg of deca a week 2 months ago to try to get some joint support. My BP has gone way up on that protocol, have not had blood test since I added the deca yet. Any way around this?

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I believe Nelson came off Nandrolone because of BP issues as well as a desire to decrease visceral fat.

If it was me I would make sure my diet and exercise* are on point first and then consider tadalafil if not already on it. After that it's time for a serious discussion around keeping the deca or adding BP meds. Don't screw around with BP.

*By on point I mean zone 2 and/or HIIT cardio 4-5 times a week

danneskjold said:

I believe Nelson came off Nandrolone because of BP issues as well as a desire to decrease visceral fat.

If it was me I would make sure my diet and exercise* are on point first and then consider tadalafil if not already on it. After that it's time for a serious discussion around keeping the deca or adding BP meds. Don't screw around with BP.

*By on point I mean zone 2 and/or HIIT cardio 4-5 times a week

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My BP is on point without Deca, and I'm on tadalafil, and the libido went down to Did stop Deca 2 weeks ago and will re evaluate. But it was great for my joints..

I am kicking the tires on adding low-dose nandrolone or NPP to my 180mg/week TRT regiment with 1000 IU of HCG. I am thinking of adding 80mg/week of nandrolone to see if that helps some chronic bilateral elbow tendonitis. I am in the medical field (nurse practitioner), so I am very familiar with TRT and dosing. I wrote my project on TRT for primary care but have yet to try nandrolone. However, I find the compound fascinating and potentially beneficial at low, controlled doses for my guys. I have experimented in the past with blasting oral tren, winstrol, anavar, and Primo at relatively low to moderate doses. I am still on the fence, however.

Vitamin_C said:

I am kicking the tires on adding low-dose nandrolone or NPP to my 180mg/week TRT regiment with 1000 IU of HCG. I am thinking of adding 80mg/week of nandrolone to see if that helps some chronic bilateral elbow tendonitis. I am in the medical field (nurse practitioner), so I am very familiar with TRT and dosing. I wrote my project on TRT for primary care but have yet to try nandrolone. However, I find the compound fascinating and potentially beneficial at low, controlled doses for my guys. I have experimented in the past with blasting oral tren, winstrol, anavar, and Primo at relatively low to moderate doses. I am still on the fence, however.

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Wonder if nandrolone just reduces the perception of pain plus some anti-inflammatory action. In your case, would it allow more movement and load and thereby supports the healing? When you come off nandrolone, will the tendinitis pain return?
Please make it your new project and share your findings with us.
Do you have a MRI scan showing your tendinitis?

Vitamin_C said:

I am kicking the tires on adding low-dose nandrolone or NPP to my 180mg/week TRT regiment with 1000 IU of HCG. I am thinking of adding 80mg/week of nandrolone to see if that helps some chronic bilateral elbow tendonitis. I am in the medical field (nurse practitioner), so I am very familiar with TRT and dosing. I wrote my project on TRT for primary care but have yet to try nandrolone. However, I find the compound fascinating and potentially beneficial at low, controlled doses for my guys. I have experimented in the past with blasting oral tren, winstrol, anavar, and Primo at relatively low to moderate doses. I am still on the fence, however.

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Have you tried DMSO and BPC-157 yet? I have nothing against Nandrolone but those two are my go-to's for joint issues. You might also review the "fixes for joint issues" thread.

Seagal said:

Wonder if nandrolone just reduces the perception of pain plus some anti-inflammatory action. In your case, would it allow more movement and load and thereby supports the healing? When you come off nandrolone, will the tendinitis pain return?
Please make it your new project and share your findings with us.
Do you have a MRI scan showing your tendinitis?

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I have no MRI, but I get chronic tennis/golfers elbow from lifting; I do have MRIs on my lumbar dysfunction, but that has improved by adding deadlifts and strengthening my back/hamstrings. If I want to advocate for this drug like I do for testosterone, the best thing I can do is try it for myself anecdotally.