My hematocrit went from 55.5 to 47.5 after one blood donation
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Systemlord
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My Hematocrit would return to the higher level before the 2 week mark. Hematocrit will recover within 1-2 weeks, not really long term solution. The cons are you suppress ferritin and for 1-2 weeks worth of lower hematocrit.
It just doesn't seem worth it at the end of the day.
You're robbing Peter to pay Paul.
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Whats the alternative? How are you managing the elevated hematocrit?
Systemlord
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Lower your dose. You have to weigh the pro’s and con’s. What’s more unhealthy, an elevation in hematocrit (lack of data showing harm in TRT induced erythrocytosis or decades in a low iron state (data showing harm).
I’m natty now. I used TRT as a tool to lose weight and gain some muscle and hopped off and I’m doing very well without TRT.
FunkOdyssey
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Increase injection frequency, switch from IM to subq, lower dose (as you can see, I didn't list this option first), change administration method to something less prone to increase HCT. Topicals raise hematocrit less than injections, oral testosterone raises HCT less than both (only 0.003% of men developed HCT above 52% in clinical trials).
RocknRolLovinguy
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Seems very similar to what I am trying to achieve. Could you please share more about your experience.
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So how many weeks are you off trt, don't get me wrong i really hope it's not just a rebound effect but we have certainly seen how symptoms tend to creep up again. I guess there is always hope when something has changed, be it food or exercise or body composition, stress, sleep etc. Personally whenever i go off sleep starts to suffer and creates a vicious cycle.
mooseman109
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I did all of that and still struggle to stay below 53-55. Had tests done for mylomas and poly vera, all negative. Keep my dose low and just donate every 10-12 weeks
Systemlord
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It's been 5 weeks now with a fully functional HPTA, 6 since I stopped Jatenzo. I've been doing Amazon Prime, 10 hour days and yesterday I ate 4 huge burritos and a huge hamburger with bun, got home 2 hours later and glucose is 101, which isn't even fasting.
I seem to be able to eat whatever I want without any issues. This was just a one time test to see how much process I've made. Running around for 10 hours with energy to spare and I'm don't get sore.
I've maybe had less than 8 hours of sleep over the last three nights and let me tell you, that 2 hours of sleep felt like 8! I feel perfectly fine, boat loads of energy.
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Systemlord
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My biggest hurdle was realizing I need to take vitamin K and magnesium together with my 600 IU D3. I'm amazed that I require vitamin K and magnesium on what is a very low and often inadequate dose for most humans.
I still cannot tolerate anything above 600 IU. Above 600 IU I get numbness, tingling in the legs, feet, red raised marks on legs.
I still cannot tolerate anything above 600 IU. Above 600 IU I get numbness, tingling in the legs, feet, red raised marks on legs.
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