TRT and penile blood flow

[johnjohn]

So when I take my shot of Test Cyp. (100mg/once per week) after a few hours or so, it's like my penis just deflates. Like the blood was sucked out of it. Around day 5 through 7 things seem to go back to normal, until I take my next shot. Anybody else ever noticed this? Also almost impossible to get an erection even on Cialis.

 

[PsychologyNo9000]

I have a similar problem. On TRT for 5 years (200mg/wk) and after the first 1-1,5 years I started to have ED. Bad bloodflow/pressure, 30-40% fullness normally and 70-80% with cialis. The only time I´m fully hard is when I wake up during the night and extremely need to pee (the pressure). A strange thing I have noticed is that when I have a good day (once in 30 encounters) I dont get tired or out of breath. But when I struggle to even get it in, I am out of breath and sweaty. I tried almost everything that exist and nothing helped me so far.

 

[Jucaro]

It's probably due to the high E2 from the aromatization. I would try a lower dose and/or split the dose into twice a week.

 

[PsychologyNo9000]

He could try more frequent shots, but not a lot of men have E2 issues on that dose. Bloodwork would help.
Me, my schedule is 3x week, tried every day (both IM and SubQ) and AI till my joints hurt and cracked. From low to high E2, tried all and same results (bloodflow seems consticted).

 

[Systemlord]

Also almost impossible to get an erection even on Cialis.

Too little or too much androgens can spell bad news for sexuality.

So when I take my shot of Test Cyp. (100mg/once per week) after a few hours or so, it's like my penis just deflates.

When an action leads to a bad outcome, then a good one, the dosage is inappropriate. What you need are smaller more frequent dosage. If you just started TRT or changed your dosage, all of this above is moot and patience is all that’s needed.

 

[johnjohn]

Makes sense. Would too high of a dose or high E2 cause issues within a few hours after injection? Whatever is happening, it's having its effect pretty fast.

 

[Wolverine]

High T can lead to high norepinephrine which will constrict blood flow. Lower dose, split into smaller more frequent doses and/or try an alpha blocker (flomax/doxazosin).

 

[Systemlord]

Would too high of a dose or high E2 cause issues within a few hours after injection?

Why is estrogen always the scapegoat, why can’t it just be too much of both estrogen and testosterone?

Estrogen always follows testosterone, so a few hours after your injection it’s doubtful estrogen has had a chance to become elevated.

 

[johnjohn]

High T can lead to high norepinephrine which will constrict blood flow. Lower dose, split into smaller more frequent doses and/or try an alpha blocker (flomax/doxazosin).

I was wondering if might be something like that. I do have an increased heart rate on Test. Been taking Propranolol for that. Never tried an alpha blocker.

 

[gerardo]

I was wondering if might be something like that. I do have an increased heart rate on Test. Been taking Propranolol for that. Never tried an alpha blocker.

Have you tried going without propranolol?

 

[johnjohn]

Have you tried going without propranolol?

I was on TRT quit a while before getting on Propranolol. I just noticed I was running out of breath easy and started checking my heart rate and it stayed crazy high. Doc has done every heart test there is and said my heart was fine. They don't know why it beats fast and I can't say for sure it's the TRT. But I've had these issues even before the Propranolol.

 

[DorianGray]

Same here, whether cream or cypionate, sex drive immediately goes down. However, energy, strength, physical tolerance seems to go up proportionally.

 

[donkeyfarlo]

Propranolol will crush your energy and impair the heart's ability to 'pump up' when it needs to. Certainly could be related to your trouble.

 

[Fernando Almaguer]

I was on TRT quit a while before getting on Propranolol. I just noticed I was running out of breath easy and started checking my heart rate and it stayed crazy high. Doc has done every heart test there is and said my heart was fine. They don't know why it beats fast and I can't say for sure it's the TRT. But I've had these issues even before the Propranolol.

what is your hr on trt before propanolol

 

[Whitey26]

The big question is what is your age? Also it could be caused by decreased circulation as you age.

 

[JohnTaylorHK]

The big question is what is your age? Also it could be caused by decreased circulation as you age.

@Whitey26 I think you are spot on with this question, but I would expand it to also ask about JohnJohn's general health, diet and level of physical fitness, apparent disorders such as diabetes etc. So called "Age Related" symptoms are usually the result of lack of mobility, and that is a major thing that most can improve without recourse to drugs.

 

[johnjohn]

what is your hr on trt before propanolol

It was like 110 resting. Completely relaxed laying in recliner.

 

[johnjohn]

The big question is what is your age? Also it could be caused by decreased circulation as you age.

52

 

[johnjohn]

@Whitey26 I think you are spot on with this question, but I would expand it to also ask about JohnJohn's general health, diet and level of physical fitness, apparent disorders such as diabetes etc. So called "Age Related" symptoms are usually the result of lack of mobility, and that is a major thing that most can improve without recourse to drugs.

General health is good, diet decent, no diabetes, 6ft. 195lbs, lift weights but cardio was hard because heart rate would reach max quickly and out of breath, before propranolol. A little better now on propranolol so trying to do more.

 

[Whereicomefrom]

Couple things that has helped me is low dose Tren and/or Caber.

Both seem to make penis fuller and hang lower, helps with the boys too.

Test alone gives me the George Costanza shrinkage.