The FDA Ended Your Access to More Economical hCG and FSH

UPDATE ON DECEMBER 1, 2021:

The FDA has just made it a lot more difficult for couples seeking fertility to start a family.
They have shut down the only affordable access to fertility hormones made by compounding pharmacies for over 40 years . All compounders were ordered to stop making alternatives to expensive name-brand fertility hormones like hCG, FSH and HMG
. To comply with a new law called the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009, these pharmacies are now required to pay an large fee and go a through lengthy process to restart production. This new law intended to decrease prices and improve access to “Biologics” accomplished just the opposite: Less access and higher costs for the consumer.

The FDA decided to take this action while cost has been increasing dramatically. A new GoodRx analysis has found that prices for name-brand hCG, FSH and HMG used in IVF fertility cycles have steadily climbed since 2014. The average cost of name-brand based IVF is about $23,000 per cycle, whereas compounded-based IVF was only $2,700. Most couples need at least 3 IVF cycles. The out-of-pocket cost and lack of insurance coverage for IVF, along with the sole reliance on name-brand medications, create an insurmountable hurdle for people. Even if one could afford them, shortages, and backorders of expensive brand-name hCG and FSH at regular pharmacies are common.

Compounders have been compounding hCG, FSH, and hMG to provide patient access to these medications for nearly 50 years. For example, hCG and FSH will still be the same drugs that they were in 1973 and 1983 when they were approved by the FDA. Patients should not suffer due to access issues as a result of a purely regulatory change.

Please Take Action by requesting that the FDA allow an exception for compounding pharmacies to continue to produce "transitional biologics". Transitional biologics include substances approved over 10 years ago that were previously pharmaceuticals but that are now reclassified as biologics.



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What are Biologics?

Products like Botox, Humira, Lantus, Enbrel, Gonal-F RFF, Menopur, Follistim AQ and many others are derived from living cells. These popular drugs are examples of biologics, or biological medications, that are developed from blood, proteins, viruses, and living organisms and are used to prevent, treat, and cure human disease. Recombinant hCG, FSH, and hMG are biologics. So are urine-derived hCG and FSH.


hCG, FSH and hMG Access Concerns Due to FDA Laws:

Under the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009 (BPCIA) - Protein-based drug products like hCG, FSH, and hMG that had previously been approved as “drugs” will now be considered Biologics and will fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER). The Drug Quality Security Act (DQSA), previously gave an exemption for not having the need to file and hold a New Drug Application (NDA) for "drugs" that were filed as drugs under DQSA under section 505. Biologics must now be approved and licensed (with a Biologics License Application -BLA) under section 351. DQSA gives no exemptions under section 351. In order to lawfully enter a Biologic product into US commercial distribution, even if the product is an old generic hCG, hMG or FSH that was previously exempted, the seller must hold a BLA for that product. By the plain letter of the statutory law, this would preclude all compounding or production by 503B or 503A without a BLA. Developing a BLA is a costly and long process that is required for new research products that are considered for FDA approval. Having old urinary based gonadotropins be required to go through this process as a new biologic is counterproductive and presents barriers to access to patients who have been using these products for years to improve their quality of life and their chances to procreate.

Compounders have been compounding urine-derived hCG, FSH, and hMG and increasing patient access to these medications for nearly 50 years. Specifically, Outsourcing Facilities have supplied HCG and Hyaluronidase so that clinicians may treat patients and come March 23, 2020 nothing in these drugs will change. For example, hCG will still be the same drug that it was in 1973 when it was approved by the FDA. It is our belief that patients should not suffer due to access issues as a result of a purely regulatory change. If FDA does not clarify that these old medications will be regulated as “drugs” for purposes of Section 503A and Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act, significant disruptions to patient access and patient care may arise.

FDA can offer enforcement discretion to allow the continued compounding of certain transition biologics like Insulin, hCG, FSH, and hMG. However, at this time FDA has not offered any information regarding their enforcement intentions.

To protect patient access to these medications and resolved the current confusion, we request that the FDA immediately clarify that approved NDAs for biological products that have been compounded for many years continue to be regulated as “drugs” for purposes of compounding pursuant to Section 503A and Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (“FD&C”) Act. This includes but is not limited to the following products: insulin, human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), and human menopausal hormone (hMG).


BACKGROUND:

What are Gonadotropins? LH, FSH, hCG, and hMG.


The gonadotropins are peptide hormones that regulate ovarian and testicular function and are essential for normal growth, sexual development, and reproduction.

The human gonadotropins include follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone (LH) which are made in the pituitary, and chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) which is made by the placenta through pregnancy.

They are under the control of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH), a decapeptide produced in the hypothalamus

FSH is essential for sexual maturation and reproduction in both men and women. It is involved in ovulation and sperm production.

LH is essential to activate Leydig cells in the testicles to produce testosterone.

hCG is an analog of LH that has been used to improve fertility in men and women. It’s extracted from pregnant women’s urine or made by recombinant DNA process.

The first hMG (FSH + LH) was approved in the United States in 1970, for follicular development in women. It remained the mainstay of fertility treatment for almost 20 years.

This product was obtained from the urine of postmenopausal women. Postmenopausal urine contains both FSH and LH in high concentrations. hMG, indeed, consists of approximately one-half FSH and LH, though intermixed with a relatively high concentration of co‐purified urinary proteins.


hCG

Human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) can be recovered from the urine of pregnant women or be produced from recombinant DNA. It acts similarly to LH, but the larger supply makes it less costly; it also has a longer half-life.

In Women: Used to induce final maturation of follicle and subsequent ovulation. Also used for luteal phase support. Typically, a single injection of 10,000 international units is used to induce ovulation.

In men: Used to treat select cases of Hypogonadotropic Hypogonadism in adult males. Typical dosages are 500-1000IU three times weekly or 4,000IU three times weekly for 6-9 months until atrophy is reversed and the dose is reduced to 2,000IU three times weekly. These doses are starting guidelines for treatment and variable depending on individual response. In off-label use, some urologists prescribe hCG in low doses in combination with Testosterone replacement to preserve fertility.

In male children: Also used to treat prepubertal cryptorchidism, not due to anatomical obstruction. therapy is usually administered between ages 4 and 9

Produced by human placenta, a sterile product derived from the urine of pregnant females

In men, HCG mimics LH from the pituitary to stimulate Leydig cells of testes to produce testosterone. However, it is not detected as LH in blood tests.

The normal lyophilized vial contains 6,000-12,000 units HCG by compounding pharmacies (commercial products cost 3X compounding)

Used by fertility specialists to induce ovulation to harvest eggs, etc.

Testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) can dramatically decrease sperm count and fertility. The latest data show that the majority of men that add hCG to their TRT were able to remain fertile using an hCG dose of 500 IU 3 times per week. 2/3 of men responded. Age and prior testosterone exposure time were limiting factors to treatment response.

It can improve sperm production in men on TRT even with the absence of FSH.

The usual recommended dose is 350-500 IU twice per week for prevention/reversal of testicular atrophy and improvements in libido (patient self-reports collected from different private practices.)

Brand hCG access has had issues in the past due to shortages.

More information about hCG

FSH
Injectable follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) is used to establish or restore fertility in men with hypogonadotropic hypogonadism (HH) and provides ovarian stimulation (OS) in women undergoing both in vitro fertilization (IVF) and oocyte cryopreservation (OCP).

Preparations of follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH) mainly include those derived from the urine of menopausal women, as well as recombinant preparations. The recombinant FSH preparations are more expensive. The urinary preparations are equally effective and less expensive.

Brand FSH (B-FSH) is prohibitively expensive and can be a major roadblock to couples pursuing fertility treatment.

Compounded FSH (C-FSH) is considerably more cost-effective with promising early clinical results.
A study at Baylor College of Medicine in Houston was performed to assess the clinical efficacy and cost-effectiveness of compounded FSH (C-FSH) in both men and women.
It involved a retrospective chart review that identified all men prescribed C-FSH with azo/severe oligozoospermia (<5 million sperm) and hypogonadotropic hypogonadism that did not respond to clomiphene citrate.

FSH levels, semen analysis, and pregnancy outcomes were noted and median pre/post-treatment levels were analyzed using the Wilcoxon test.

They concluded that compared to brand name FSH, compounded FSH provides unprecedented cost savings to male and female patients undergoing FSH therapy and may allow some couples to achieve parenthood who otherwise would be prohibited by cost.(Reference 1)

COST COMPARISON BRAND FSH VS COMPOUNDED FSH.jpg

More information about FSH

History of Gonadotropins for Fertility Use (Extracted from Reference 2)

The first hMG (FSH + LH) was approved in the United States in 1970, for follicular development in women. It remained the mainstay of fertility treatment for almost 20 years.

This product was obtained from the urine of postmenopausal women. Postmenopausal urine contains both FSH and LH in high concentrations. hMG, indeed, consists of approximately one-half FSH and LH, though intermixed with a relatively high concentration of co‐purified urinary proteins. Until recently, hMG was administered exclusively by i.m. injection. Its clinical efficacy in achieving ovulation, or so‐called ‘controlled ovarian hyperstimulation’, has been established beyond any reasonable doubt and pregnancy rates of ∼11.7% per treatment cycle have been reported in the literature. In combination with intrauterine inseminations (IUI), they may approach 15%.

The first alternative medication to hMG became available in the United States in 1987 in the form of human urinary FSH. Like hMG, this product was still urine‐derived but was largely purified of LH (though not of co‐purified proteins) and was still administered by the i.m. route. As LH absorption techniques moved from absorption by polyvalently bound antibodies to purification by immunoaffinity columns, purification standards increased further and the resulting products, though still urinary in nature, achieved a significant level of purity. In fact, highly purified urinary FSH contained at that point <0.1 IU LH and <5% of co‐purified proteins.


A final step in the purification of FSH was achieved when in the mid‐1990s, recombinant FSH was introduced to the market. Recombinant (r)FSH is in its amino acid sequence identical to human FSH, though carbohydrate side chain attachments cause pharmacodynamics, which does differ to some extent from human pituitary FSH.

In the United States, gonadotrophins are currently marketed by three pharmaceutical companies, with others expected to enter the fray in the near future. Urinary-based gonadotropins are also made by compounding pharmacies.

Is there a difference in safety?

Whether recombinant gonadotropins, indeed, offer an improvement in safety margins over the older urinary products is one of the most crucial questions in this analysis.

Many scientists strongly argued that: (i) a pure (i.e. recombinant) product was in principle preferable to an impure (i.e. urinary) product; (ii) human (i.e. urinary) products carried a risk of infection by slow‐viruses, raising concerns; (iii) human products, since impure, carried a risk of immunogenicity and (iv) human products had repeatedly been demonstrated to be uneven in biological potency.

In over 30 years of clinical use of urinary gonadotropins, not a single case of infectious contamination has been reported. Even cases of slow viruses should, in such a time span, have clinically become apparent (Balen, 2002).

IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) Medication Prices Rose by 50% Over the Past 5 Years (Extracted from Reference 3)

A new GoodRx analysis has found that prices for in vitro fertilization (IVF) medications have steadily climbed since 2014, contributing to the already high cost of infertility treatment. Three drugs heavily contributed to this increase: Gonal-F RFF, Menopur, and Follistim AQ.

These days, price increases come as no surprise. But the cost for these drugs can be a major burden for women looking to undergo IVF. Most of these medications aren’t covered by insurance and are brand-only drugs, so they don’t have cheaper generic alternatives. This means that the patients who need these medications are on the hook to pay the costs out of pocket.

How expensive is IVF?

Infertility is a common condition: 6.1 million women in the United States experience difficulty getting pregnant or staying pregnant. To treat infertility, women often turn to assisted reproductive technologies, like IVF or egg-freezing. The decision to undergo these treatments is not easy — even if you can afford them.

The average cost of IVF is about $23,000 per cycle. The out-of-pocket cost and lack of insurance coverage for IVF are hurdles that are insurmountable for some. Making up a sizable portion of that cost are the medications needed to ensure a successful course of IVF.

Some popular brand name medications used in IVF, like Follistim AQ, Gonal-F, or Cetrotide, all come with a high price tag. For example, the best GoodRx discount price for one vial of Gonal-F, an injectable medication used to induce ovulation, is $1,095 — and patients may need to take multiple injections.

But medications aren’t the only cost. From start to finish, the IVF journey is filled with doctor visits, counseling, and other procedures. IVF usually doesn’t work on the first try, either, and often takes 2 or 3 cycles. Because the process is so individualized and can take so many cycles, it’s easy to see how costs can spiral out of control.

But even though it’s not always effective, IVF is still the most successful type of fertility treatment.

How much have IVF drugs increased in price?

According to the GoodRx list price index, the list price for drugs used in IVF has increased by 50% since 2014, with some noteworthy drugs driving the increase. This rise in the list price is even higher than the overall increase for all prescription drugs since 2014, about 30%.

References:

1- Gondokusumo, J. et al. American Urological Association Conference 2019. MP07-11 ANALYSIS OF THE CLINICAL AND COST-EFFECTIVENESS OF COMPOUNDED FSH FOR MALE INFERTILITY TREATMENT. Journal of Urology Volume 199, Issue 4S

2- Gleicher, N et al. Bye‐bye urinary gonadotrophins? Recombinant FSH: A real progress in ovulation induction and IVF?. Human Reproduction, Volume 18, Issue 3, March 2003, Pages 476–482.

3- Lauren Chase. IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) Medication Prices Rose by 50% Over the Past 5 Years

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Note: Try to focus on the word "access" more than "cost" when you submit your comment below. There is room for 5,000 characters only. You can also upload your own personal letter. Please DO NOT forget to describe how this potential issue will affect your health. Write a personal story. Make it human.

EXAMPLE OF A COMMENT:

"I've been using compounded hCG for the past ______months to maintain my fertility. Without access to my compounded hCG, I would be forced to pay 2-5 times as much for HCG, which could make it unaffordable for me to preserve healthy fertility while being on testosterone replacement therapy. The compounded product is also much more readily available and does not face the shortages of the pharmaceutical brand-name products, which often go short or spike radically in price. I have heard of people having to pay $500 for a single bottle, whereas my compounded product is around $30.

With access to my compounded HCG, I can have a chance to start a family. Without it, I would be forced to start paying so, so much more for HCG or risk my fertility being shut down.


ADD PERSONAL STORY TO REPLACE THE TWO PARAGRAPHS ABOVE

Additionally, products such as FSH are available via compounding pharmacies, which I'm interested in using in the future. The compounded FSH is affordable, whereas the non-compounded product could cost me around $15,000 for a cycle needed for conception. This is outrageous. Usually, more than 3 cycles are required by most couples.

The intent of the BPCI Act was to increase access of biologics for consumers like me. The enforcement here will do anything but that. I ask that the FDA allow compounders to continue producing some of these old biologic products such as HCG and FSH, which were long, long ago approved by the FDA and are identical in efficacy to known brand-name products. Otherwise only the extremely wealthy will be able to afford their fertility with these products like HCG and FSH."





LATEST UPDATE ON NOV 10, 2021:

A new consumer coalition to fight the FDA decision has formed and will soon send a petition to all who are interested in contacting their congress representatives and senators. Email [email protected] for more information.

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These were the public comments received by the FDA (over 400 comments)


Here is mine:

Dear FDA Representatives:

I am a consumer and advocate that comes to you with great concern about my and my community's access to fertility biologics such as hCG and FSH. I represent over 38,000 men and women who have joined my educational sites ExcelMale.com and ********'s Women's Health and HRT groups. I am also a long-term HIV survivor, activist, and author of four health books that educate consumers to increase their self-advocacy and health literacy about hormone treatment access.

As you are well aware, under the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act of 2009 (BPCIA) - Protein-based drug products like hCG, FSH, and hMG that had previously been approved as "drugs" will now be considered Biologics and will fall under the jurisdiction of the FDA's Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research (CBER). The Drug Quality Security Act (DQSA), previously gave an exemption for not having the need to file and hold a New Drug Application (NDA) for "drugs" that were filed as drugs under DQSA under section 505. Biologics must now be approved and licensed (with a Biologics License Application -BLA) under section 351. DQSA gives no exemptions under section 351. In order to lawfully enter a Biologic product into US commercial distribution, even if the product is an old generic hCG, hMG or FSH that was previously exempted, the seller must hold a BLA for that product. By the plain letter of the statutory law, this would preclude all compounding or production by 503B or 503A without a BLA. Developing a BLA is a costly and long process that is required for new research products that are considered for FDA approval. Having old urinary based gonadotropins be required to go through this process as a new biologic is counterproductive and presents barriers to access to patients who have been using these products for years to improve their quality of life and their chances to procreate.

Compounders have been compounding urine-derived hCG, FSH, and hMG and increasing patient access to these medications for nearly 50 years. Specifically, Outsourcing Facilities have supplied HCG and Hyaluronidase so that clinicians may treat patients and come March 23, 2020 nothing in these drugs will change. For example, hCG will still be the same drug that it was in 1973 when it was approved by the FDA. It is my belief that patients should not suffer due to access issues as a result of a purely regulatory change. If FDA does not clarify that these old medications will be regulated as "drugs" for purposes of Section 503A and Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic (FD&C) Act, significant disruptions to patient access and patient care may arise.

FDA can offer enforcement discretion to allow the continued compounding of certain transition biologics like Insulin, hCG, FSH, and hMG. However, at this time FDA has not offered any information regarding their enforcement intentions. The due date is fast approaching and the community just found out about this potential access disruption issue.

To protect patient access to these medications and resolved the current confusion, I request that the FDA immediately clarify that approved NDAs for biological products that have been compounded for many years continue to be regulated as "drugs" for purposes of compounding pursuant to Section 503A and Section 503B of the Federal Food, Drug, and Cosmetic ("FD&C") Act. This includes but is not limited to the following products: insulin, human chorionic gonadotropin (HCG), follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), and human menopausal hormone (hMG).

I have written a brief background of what issues surrounding access to affordable hCG, FSH (and HMG) are in the following section.

Thank you so much for your consideration in this matter.

In health,

Nelson Vergel
Consumer and Advocate

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From Empower Pharmacy:

Empower is still engaging with the FDA and pursuing legislative options to update the Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act to allow compounders to continue making HCG and other biologics like we have always been able to. Just as there has never been a risk to a prescriber for prescribing a compounded biologic there will be none to further do so.

The Biologics Price Competition and Innovation Act was designed to improve access to important biologic medications including insulin. The effect on compounding pharmacies was unintentional, and to stop compounding pharmacies from producing certain transitional biologics that have been compounded for years goes against the intention of this policy.


In addition, the off-label use of HCG includes infertility and TRT protocols in men. Urologists and men’s health providers have used compounding pharmacies for years, and compounded prescription data is not reported to the government the same way commercial drugs are reported through insurances, therefore the very large patient population who uses HCG off label has not been accounted for. There isn’t enough commercial supply to meet all patients needs at this time. Until there is enough supply to meet patients needs and the discrepancy in policy has been properly addressed, several FDA registered outsourcing facilities are continuing to supply HCG until further notice.


If there is any concern with using compounded HCG, patients can always request a prescription for commercial HCG to fill at a retail pharmacy (You can use GoodRx coupons for 10,000 IU vials https://www.goodrx.com/hcg )
 
Isn't it true that on March 23rd as much as we do not agree with the new laws and guidelines put fourth by the FDA, the FDA has still banned the manufacturing and selling of hCG for both 503a and 503b facilities unless they have the active license in place which could take years to get. Everyone agrees that the law is no good but who gives Empower or these other pharmacies the ability to break the law? Just because there is not enough commercial supply to meet patients needs, what gives these pharmacies like Empower the right to step in and continue to compound hCG? The law is still the law so what makes these pharmacies above the law? In 2019 Empower was cited by the FDA and was banned from compounding and selling hCG because it was not on the shortage list but they disregarded and still continued. So it seems at the end of the day these pharmacies, including Empower, will continue to not follow the law and eventually the FDA will respond.
 
I am just glad they are selling it and that they have started legislative action. It seems to me that for someone who is looking for hCG as you are, you seem to be angry at compounding pharmacies that are pushing back on the FDA. That does not make sense to me. You should be rooting for them or anyone else that is still selling generic low-cost hCG in the United States. You can always try to get a prescription from your doctor for brand-name hCG and get it in a regular pharmacy. Why are you worked up about this? I would be worked up about the FDA's decision to make an old off patent generic drug be considered as a new biologic product that only pharma can sell. That should be the source of anger, unless you work for pharma or the FDA.
 
... Everyone agrees that the law is no good but who gives Empower or these other pharmacies the ability to break the law? ...
Who gives the majority of all drivers the right to speed on the nation's highways? It's not an ideal situation, but everyone perceives some benefit. The drivers like the lax enforcement and feel like they generally know what a safe speed is. The cops like the possibility of selective enforcement: Since virtually everyone ignores the law they can just about pull over anyone for any reason under cover of enforcing the speed limit. The politicians and regulators have plausible deniability if the higher traffic speeds are linked to higher numbers of deaths.

Anyway, the FDA may not be quite as accommodating in the case of hCG, but you'd think the current administration would be sympathetic to reducing regulation if the issue would get on their radar. Probably not much hope for that while the pandemic continues.
 
you'd think the current administration would be sympathetic to reducing regulation if the issue would get on their radar.
We as consumers have not brought this up to the current administration. I am thinking about putting together a petition about this.
hCG is even more important for fertility programs in couples trying to conceive. The average cost of a cycle of in-vitro fertilization including hCG and FSH is $25,000 if you use pharma brands. Two to three cycles are usually required. Crazy!!


 
I am just glad they are selling it and that they have started legislative action. It seems to me that for someone who is looking for hCG as you are, you seem to be angry at compounding pharmacies that are pushing back on the FDA. That does not make sense to me. You should be rooting for them or anyone else that is still selling generic low-cost hCG in the United States. You can always try to get a prescription from your doctor for brand-name hCG and get it in a regular pharmacy. Why are you worked up about this? I would be worked up about the FDA's decision to make an old off patent generic drug be considered as a new biologic product that only pharma can sell. That should be the source of anger, unless you work for pharma or the FDA.

I am not angry at all and I am glad someone is pushing back against the FDA and I dont work for either lol just having a discussion. Big pharma used its power to control or try to control the HCG market and it just causes an inconvenience, whether for men on TRT like myself or woman. I welcome the low cost hCG being someone who does not have insurance and now will be paying out of pocket for it. My main point is that until the law is hopefully revised and a decision is made, isnt it true that Empower and others are still "breaking" the law? I don't believe cannabis should be illegal but im not going to grow or sell it while it is in the process of becoming legal and those that do are breaking the law. See the relevance? Just having a discussion on write vs wrong.
 
I don't believe cannabis should be illegal but im not going to grow or sell it while it is in the process of becoming legal and those that do are breaking the law. See the relevance?
Imagine that Colorado decided today that selling pot in that state is illegal for the average store and that only large corporations can do it. That is a better analogy to this situation.
 
Unless it involves treating cancer or is a component of "women's health", don't expect rationality or a sympathetic ear from bureaucrats at the FDA. But, the more the compounding pharmacy industry, physicians and patients make their voices heard, it can have some weight. I signed one of the petitions and wrote a letter to my congress person also. I encourage others to do the same.
 
hCG is a component of "women's health", it is used to induce ovulation in women undergoing fertility treatment.

That is true. But, the FDA could still restrict the product produced by compounding pharmacies as well as off-label use for males. And, even if it becomes an Rx, pharma only availability even for off-label there could be a discriminatory price differential as you see in pricing for Vylessi. No predicting here or purposely injecting negativity, just expressing possibles. The important point is to support compounding pharmacy business of providing that and other potentially beneficial peptides.
 
The FDA did not care about all our comments. This policy is now in place. Some compounding pharmacies with money are now trying to get their own Biologic License Application- BLA submitted to the FDA. Some are still selling their hCG inventory.
 
The FDA did not care about all our comments. This policy is now in place. Some compounding pharmacies with money are now trying to get their own Biologic License Application- BLA submitted to the FDA. Some are still selling their hCG inventory.
Can doctors prescribe HCG across state borders since it is a controlled substance in most places? Meaning when compounding pharmacies inventory ends will we be able to buy in a local pharmacy if an out of state doctor prescribes it and call in the pharmacy?
 

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