If symptoms matter, can high T be okay?

[T-dog]

I’ve been seeing that symptoms may be considered more important than levels for diagnosing and agreeing to treat low testosterone.

But could the inverse be true? I’ve never fully recovered sexually, and I’m wondering if you take levels as secondary for treatment (alleviating negative symptoms are seen as most important) are there people who should have higher levels after treatment, even if those new levels are above what is recommended?

 

[Vince]

I’ve been seeing that symptoms may be considered more important than levels for diagnosing and agreeing to treat low testosterone.

But could the inverse be true? I’ve never fully recovered sexually, and I’m wondering if you take levels as secondary for treatment (alleviating negative symptoms are seen as most important) are there people who should have higher levels after treatment, even if those new levels are above what is recommended?

I always feel the best when my levels are higher than they should be. So I keep them that way.

 

[Systemlord]

I’ve been seeing that symptoms may be considered more important than levels for diagnosing and agreeing to treat low testosterone.

But could the inverse be true? I’ve never fully recovered sexually, and I’m wondering if you take levels as secondary for treatment (alleviating negative symptoms are seen as most important) are there people who should have higher levels after treatment, even if those new levels are above what is recommended?

A lot of forum members feel better above the normal ranges, higher than they were naturally. Forty five percent of members feel better above normal. I felt better when on double the dosage I'm currently taking now but doctors won't allow it.

There's no one-size fits all approach to hormone therapy, what is too much for one individual may not be enough for another. I don't believe in these recommendations, treat everyone the same. This way of thinking tunnel visions doctors and prevents critical thought and analytical thinking.

You make the assumption that hormones are to blame for your sexual issues. Maybe it is something else and perhaps hormones were only partly to blame for your sexual issues.

Your sexual issues could be your TRT protocol which you didn't bother to share.

As far as a mainstream medical doctor figuring it out is slim to none. They simply don't have the time or resources to devote so much time or thought process to one specific case.

At what Free T level do you feel optimal?

As the thread title says, I want to compile a consensus and see at what Free T levels our members feel optimal. Please specify if levels are at trough, midpoint or peak. Also detail protocol and time of lab testing in relation to your injections. These poll questions are for Free T only either...

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[madman]

I’ve been seeing that symptoms may be considered more important than levels for diagnosing and agreeing to treat low testosterone.

But could the inverse be true? I’ve never fully recovered sexually, and I’m wondering if you take levels as secondary for treatment (alleviating negative symptoms are seen as most important) are there people who should have higher levels after treatment, even if those new levels are above what is recommended?

Yes symptom relief what truly matters but it is still critical to maintain healthy blood work let alone prevent/minimize any sides (cosmetic/bloodmarkers).

If you feel great overall blood markers are healthy/minus any sides then I see no issue running a a higher trough FT level (within reason).

Do what you feel is best for you just understand that running too high a steady-state/trough FT level can be just as bad in many ways as running too low a trough FT level especially when it comes to libido. erectile function let alone mood!

Switching From Oral Test to Test Cypionate

Hello, I tried Kyzatrex at 200mg twice a day for a total of 400mg a day but it only got my total Test to 419. According to their titration guide, I would need 2x200mg twice a day for a total of 800mg a day which becomes cost prohibitive for me. So I have decided to try Test Cypionate instead...

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Although it is important to know where your trough FT level sits symptom relief is what truly matters.

What level you need to hit would be through trial and error.

Every individual is different as some men will feel good running a mid-range trough whereas others may need a high-end trough to reap the full benefits.

Many tend to aim for a higher-end let alone high trough.

Some will even venture into the absurd territory but that is usually the ones caught up on that more T is better mentality being pushed by those dime a dozen run of the mill T-clinics, so called men's health forums loaded with all those blast n cruizzzers polluting the internet let alone those so called gurus littered on the forums/Gootube!

Unfortunately many men are overmedicated running levels well beyond their genetic set-point.

The goal here is to achieve a healthy trough FT.